Playing in a Guitar Trio (Stella by Starlight Lesson) - Page 2

SteveF · #31 06-28-2008, 04:52 PM

Thanks for posting the great lesson. Very nice. I cannot finger that Em7b5 chord as written - big reach for me. Can't seem to find another Em7b5 voicing that works into the solo melody yet.

DMatthewsBand07 · #32 06-29-2008, 05:41 AM

5
3
3
2
x
0

you don't really have to play that low E but it helps.

SteveF · #33 06-29-2008, 06:25 AM

I can't come close to reaching that one. I've been trying this one:

x
10
10
9
x
10

but it sure doesn't sound as good. Still working at it - that's part of the fun.

Thanks.

DMatthewsBand07 · #34 06-29-2008, 01:09 PM

one thing to try is a Gmin voicing with the A on top and then just add the open E in the bass. Gmin contains all the notes of the Emin7b5 except for the E. (E) G Bb D. So maybe...

5
3
3
5
x
0

or maybe this one

x
10
7
8
7

that's a bit of a doozy though. Might I ask how you're fingering the original voicing that I mentioned above?

SteveF · #35 07-05-2008, 05:09 PM

I was trying...

5 - 4th finger
3 - 1st finger bar
3 - 1st finger bar
5 - 3rd finger
x - mute with tip of 3rd finger
0

I can reach it if hold the neck almost vertical (like a stand-up bass). In normal playing position I cannot nail it cleanly. But I'll keep at it. Got any good ideas for improving one's ability to spread their fingers out? I envy those who can effortlessly span 4 frets at the nut end.

DMatthewsBand07 · #36 07-05-2008, 09:05 PM

Just play lots of chords. Also, for that voicing you were just talking about try hybrid picking (bass with your pick, treble with your fingers and avoid that A string altogether. Might make it easier.)

On Sugar Hill · #37 07-18-2008, 07:45 PM

So are you actually picking with your pinkie too when you go hybrid? That seems so weird to me but sounds really good.

Ben · #38 09-02-2008, 10:51 PM

Could dirkji or somebody send me the J SONCE.STY file for Band in a Box? That would be great thanks.

mike walker · #39 09-03-2008, 02:55 AM

'And the reason the chord was Bdim7 was because it was the viidim7 chord of Cm7, which is the next chord in the tune, kind of a dominant chord in Cm'.

Matt, it was Bbdim7 not Bdim7th, so the relationship to Cm is not v i. Or did i miss something?

Mike

m78w · #40 09-03-2008, 08:26 AM

I just reread my post and that was a typo, I just took that sentence out of the post so it now makes sense.

Mw

mike walker · #41 09-03-2008, 08:41 AM

Always glad to help.

m78w · #42 09-03-2008, 08:53 AM

That's the cool thing about having so many people visiting this site, is that no one can get away with typo's or mistakes!

Thanks again!

MW

perfischer · #43 09-05-2008, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

Could dirkji or somebody send me the J SONCE.STY file for Band in a Box? That would be great thanks.

Very cool lesson, many thanks. I'm also interested in the J SONCE.STY - my BiaB chooses JAZZ.STY, which is not too bad I guess

Per

nikki-lea · #44 11-16-2008, 10:15 AM

on bar 17 was do the marks mean after the chord

m78w · #45 11-16-2008, 11:41 AM

The squiggly line with the arrow means to strum the chord from the lowest note to the highest note.

MW

nikki-lea · #46 11-16-2008, 12:33 PM

Thankyou

hotgoalie11565 · #47 12-21-2008, 07:42 PM

Question for you, Dirk. I know you're on vacation but hopefully you'll answer when you return.

As far as the nails on your picking hand, do you tend to keep your nails short or do you grow them out a bit so the notes don't sound so muted?

Merry Christmas.

pierre richard · #48 12-22-2008, 06:15 AM

maybe
3
3
3
2
x
x

or
6
5
3
5
x
x
time on the instrument........pierre

Peet · #49 08-26-2009, 04:53 AM

Hi Dirk,

Thank you for this video. I love it and it's very helpful. I still have a question though. You play the cords without the basses as this is obviously played by the bass player. I wondered wether you retain the fingering for the rest of the cord, I wasn't able to make that out completely from the video. Or do you place your fingers for the cords as is most practical with respect to the cord that follows?

bultwisa · #50 09-28-2009, 09:44 PM

Give us a little more detail, and someone may be able to help.

roosterjazzez4u · #51 03-16-2012, 10:19 AM

Hi Dirk,
l like your presentation of Stllea By Starlight. For someone who is trying to learn the standards and learn how to be a trio leader, dou or accompiament
player. Having the meldoy form recognizible is key for actually learning the tune. l have heard all kinds of version of trying to teach this tune. And if you never heard the original, you would recognize the melody from some of the versions l've heard. So thank you ! Now l feel like l can learn this beautiful song!