It looks like you are not yet registered with The Jazz Guitar Forum. Click here to register, it's easy, fast and free!

The Jazz Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Jazz Guitar Forum > The Jazz Guitar Forum > Jazzguitar.be Lessons

Play What You Hear Guitar Course


Welcome to the Jazz Guitar Forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-05-2011, 02:42 PM
wizard3739's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Payson Arizona
Posts: 1,821
Default Practical Standards Group -- "Round Midnight"

This is my version of "Round Midnight". I alway struggle with melody line for this song. The backing track is BIAB Bill Evans trio style with a 2 bar intro, 4 choruses and a standard 2 bar ending. Although I played this one by ear, I hear mostly Eb minor sounds for it. The first chorus is me comping the other 3 are improv. Sorry for the noisy background, my video approach isn't ready yet. All comments are helpful to me, please review this and give me your thoughts.

wiz

round midnight improv..mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
__________________
Howie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-05-2011, 02:48 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 454
Default

Here's my attempt:


http://www.box.net/shared/dmo4ecreks0apa9104jr

Last edited by Kman : 07-05-2011 at 05:38 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-05-2011, 03:04 PM
wizard3739's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Payson Arizona
Posts: 1,821
Default Well done!

very nice, Kman! I love your tone and the octaves added a lot at just the right time. I must listen to your good improv again to pick up some of your nice lines. Thanks very much for posting.

wiz
__________________
Howie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-05-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 476
Default

here is my attempt at this done a while back:
roundmidnight.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-05-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 476
Default

Wiz nice job it gets better as the improv progresses
Kman - I couldn't access the link :-(
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-05-2011, 04:27 PM
wizard3739's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Payson Arizona
Posts: 1,821
Default round midnight

Thanks Jay, I'm still not real comfortable with my improv on the song. You have submitted a very nice uptempo version. I especially like the chord melody from the first chorus. Thanks for posting.

wiz
__________________
Howie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-05-2011, 05:36 PM
brwnhornet59's Avatar  
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,252
Send a message via AIM to brwnhornet59 Send a message via Skype™ to brwnhornet59
Default

Good job guys. K-man I could not access you link either.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-05-2011, 05:46 PM
morroben's Avatar  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Morro Bay, Ca
Posts: 180
Default

Wow...I'm starting to second guess the idea of posting a version. I really enjoyed these.
Wiz...yours really picked up steam along the way. The improv was great. The stuff around the 6:30+ mark especially. You mentioned struggling with the melody to this song, and I do too. I've only had a small chance to play with it, but the melody isn't coming easy.
K-man, I'm having trouble accessing yours, too.
Jay, that was great. You move between single notes and chords really well. I almost wish the backing track wasn't there at the beginning. The improv was great too, but chord melody is what I'm focusing on, so that beginning really grabbed my attention.
Really good stuff guys. I spent some time on this song last night, and I must admit, it's not coming easy. Hopefully I'll be able to get something together in a timely manner...and hopefully it won't suck too bad.

Last edited by morroben : 07-05-2011 at 05:50 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-06-2011, 02:34 AM
the*doctor's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Wollongong NSW, Australia
Posts: 128
Default

Awesome! These are great. I was especially impressed by Kman's version. It was so smooth
__________________
Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny!
-Frank Zappa
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-06-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 454
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wizard3739 View Post
This is my version of "Round Midnight". I alway struggle with melody line for this song. The backing track is BIAB Bill Evans trio style with a 2 bar intro, 4 choruses and a standard 2 bar ending. Although I played this one by ear, I hear mostly Eb minor sounds for it. The first chorus is me comping the other 3 are improv. Sorry for the noisy background, my video approach isn't ready yet. All comments are helpful to me, please review this and give me your thoughts.

wiz

round midnight improv..mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

Wiz, I listened to yours and there are some really nice moments in it, especially when you played off the melody. You're on the verge. I would keep practicing the song. You have a nice sound and touch.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-06-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 454
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayx123 View Post

Nice job Jay. I enjoyed the up tempo version and you play the melody perfectly.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-06-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 476
Default

10x guys
Kman I finally could hear you take, I really like your minimalistic approach.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-06-2011, 01:48 PM
mr. beaumont's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 5,984
Default

Here's mine...

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Hope you all enjoy.

Really enjoyed what I heard so far...Howie, I love that tone...I also like the way you record these with the comping then the solo or melody...very informative...

Kman, what can I say? great feel...really captures what this tune is all about.

Jay, I missed yours, I'm gonna go back and check it out now.
__________________
Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
http://www.jeffmatzguitar.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-06-2011, 02:02 PM
mr. beaumont's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 5,984
Default

AH, jay that was great...all kinds of cool chords going on...really liked when the single note line kicked in too, good strong entrance, fat, fat, tone...
__________________
Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
http://www.jeffmatzguitar.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-06-2011, 02:02 PM
brwnhornet59's Avatar  
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,252
Send a message via AIM to brwnhornet59 Send a message via Skype™ to brwnhornet59
Default

Very nice Mr B!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-06-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 476
Default

Mr B! that was beautiful.
What guitar are you playing on?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-06-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 454
Default

That was very nice Jeff. Good dynamics. You brought it up nicely and then back down. A lot of variety, very interesting. I'll be listening to that again.

Last edited by Kman : 07-06-2011 at 03:10 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-06-2011, 03:18 PM
wizard3739's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Payson Arizona
Posts: 1,821
Default wow!

very nice chord melody Mr. B! I really like how your bass lines always seem to be in the right place to augment the sound of your nice chord voicings. That is a nice looking Kay, and you give the sound it deserves. Sounds like it would great to use behind a singer.

wiz
__________________
Howie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-06-2011, 03:34 PM
mr. beaumont's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 5,984
Default

Thanks gents.

Yeah Jay, that's my Kay "Master Cutaway," whith a DeArmond "Guitar Mike" pickup, which I actually bought from a forum member a year or so ago (who also had a Hofner New Pres. I should have bought that day too, but I digress..)

It's a really cool guitar...fattest neck I've ever seen (but narrow nutwidth) and tiny little frets...it's not the easiest guitar to play that I own, but it's sound is worth it--plug it into a tube amp (I used a princeton in this recording) and it's an instant classic jazz tone...I felt like it was a perfect guitar to play this tune on...

And yeah Howie, it's killer for backing up a singer...makes me feel all Barney Kessel.
__________________
Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
http://www.jeffmatzguitar.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-06-2011, 03:57 PM
ESCC's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NoVa
Posts: 133
Default Nice!

[quote=mr. beaumont;155867]Here's mine...

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Hope you all enjoy.

Jeff,

Loved it! Very ascertive in your approach, just great.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-06-2011, 05:27 PM
the*doctor's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Wollongong NSW, Australia
Posts: 128
Default

Mr Beaumont, FLAWLESS! That was so nice man
__________________
Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny!
-Frank Zappa
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-06-2011, 07:20 PM
M-ster's Avatar  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: No. VA, USA
Posts: 1,064
Default

Nice, Jeff.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-06-2011, 10:21 PM
mr. beaumont's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 5,984
Default

Thanks again you guys...

Hopefully we'll get a few more and then we can discuss this one...there's so many ways to harmonize this tune...I know "my way" is different than the real book, which is different from howie's chart which is different from other charts I've seen...

Just one of the best tunes ever written, imho...
__________________
Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
http://www.jeffmatzguitar.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-06-2011, 10:58 PM
morroben's Avatar  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Morro Bay, Ca
Posts: 180
Default

You guys are fast! And good! I'm still trying to get this song together.
Really nice, Jeff....great playing and great tone. I like the way I can hear the separate movements of the bass and melody...doesn't just sound like chords rolling by. I'm hoping you'll make a chord melody lesson for your website someday.
KMan, I was able to get yours to play today. Great playing, and the tone and feel added even more. I think it's the most "smokey bar room" version so far. That's how I always think of this song, so I enjoyed it a lot.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-07-2011, 01:56 PM
fep's Avatar
fep fep is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,988
Default Let the analysis begin

Sorry guys, I haven't listened to your takes on this tune... yet. I want to try to do my own first and I don't want to be influenced - yet. I'm not going to listen to Monks version either... yet. (I'm still trying to get a recording set-up going at the Hospital, on my wifes old laptop, with a Squier Strat, and I have be to fairly quiet, I'm in the hospital grounds studio apartments now)

In the meantime I thought I'd post my analysis hoping this might start a discussion. Underneath the systems, I wrote in the way I like to think of things when the standard jazz analysis doesn't do it for me. It's really about how I'm hearing where the progressions are going.

Oops forgot the obvious... This is an A A B A, each section being 8 measures long.

Edit: Made some corrections




Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Last edited by fep : 07-07-2011 at 07:09 PM. Reason: Needed some corrections
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-07-2011, 04:38 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 454
Default

Sorry to hear your are in the hostpital Fep. Get well soon. At least you have your guitar with you.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-07-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 213
Default

fep-

Thanks for the chart. Each tune you guys tackle I download the sheet or find it in the fake book and hack my way through it..... just starting out, might eventually get to something worth posting, but I always enjoy these threads. It's especially nice when there is a more in depth discussion of some of the choices made and the theory behind the different styles. This sheet is invaluable for a newbie like me on a more complicated piece like this. It's genuinely appreciated.

Great job, guys, I've really enjoyed everyone's take so far. Keep the recordings coming (as he retreats back to lurking distance....)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-07-2011, 06:44 PM
wizard3739's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Payson Arizona
Posts: 1,821
Default anaylsis

Good job Frank, your analysis looks spot on to me. I think mostly in terms of eb minor with many opportunities to slip outside briefly and also use some interesting chord subs. The melody line is so strong that my ear tells me to play around with it or harmonize lines around it.

wiz
__________________
Howie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-07-2011, 07:27 PM
fep's Avatar
fep fep is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,988
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kman View Post
Sorry to hear your are in the hostpital Fep. Get well soon. At least you have your guitar with you.
Hey Kman, just got back from the Dr appointment and just got good news. It seems my bone marrow transplant is started to kick in and producing blood and no cancer, I'm approaching six months at the hospital and it looks like I may finally be going home soon. Fingers are crossed.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 07-07-2011, 07:32 PM
mr. beaumont's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 5,984
Default

Damn, frank that would be great news...positive (swingin') vibes sent your way.
__________________
Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
http://www.jeffmatzguitar.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2006 Jazzguitar.be