Jazz Guitar 101: Arpeggios - Page 2

simee · #31 05-06-2007, 07:51 PM

When you are first learning an arpeggio shape its best to start from the lowest note of the arpeggio in that position. This wont always be the root, depends which position you are in. Once familuar with the shape the next step is to create all different permutations of the notes via various melodic patterns. I'm sure that this will be coming up in a future tutorial. Hope this helps. Enjoy!

Aaron J. Halpern · #32 05-08-2007, 05:15 PM

dirk good afternoon from east Boston MA. 5:20pm tues fingering works a,o,k , Thanks

Henkes · #33 05-15-2007, 12:59 PM

Hiya Dirk,

Thanks for the awesome lesson!
I'll be sure to memorize those arpeggio's to expand my vocabulary!

aPAULo · #34 05-23-2007, 05:36 PM

Hey Dirk,

Could you put up 9th arpeggios up too?

Aaron J. Halpern · #35 05-31-2007, 08:50 PM

Dirk that d7 chord appregios helps me out a lot , I'll even add the A,C,on the 6th and fifth strings,can I do this in the tenth position also any help from you or other members would be helpful, Thanks Aaron J. Halpern

gaz638 · #36 08-14-2007, 01:33 AM

arpeggios are something i neglect i think of scales a lot more but im blending them in slowly and these lessons help me organise the idea in my head thanks

Jeff · #37 11-28-2007, 08:28 PM

Hi,
What is the difference between arpeggios and pentatonics?
What can one use each for?
Thanks
Jeff

dirkji · #38 11-29-2007, 05:32 AM

Hi Jeff,

Arpeggios are broken chords, where the notes of a chord are played in succession. More here: http://www.jazzguitar.be/arpeggio.html
Arpeggios are used to improvise a solo. They are a very good starting point because they reflect the harmony of a chord progression. Players like Django Reinhardt use a lot of arpeggios in their solos.

The pentatonic scale is a 5-note scale that you can use to improvise. It is used a lot in blues, rock, funk and also in jazz (but less). Kenny Burrell uses pentatonic scales a lot. More about the pentatonic scale here: http://www.jazzguitar.be/jazz_guitar...nic_scale.html

- Dirk

Jeff · #39 11-29-2007, 01:09 PM

Hi Dirk,
Good examples.
Would you have anything similar to the videos that you did, Stella By Starlight or There Will Be another You, that would show arpeggios and/or pentatonics being used?
Maybe one of those does?
Thanks
Jeff

dirkji · #40 11-29-2007, 02:46 PM

That's a good idea Jeff. I have a lot in the pipeline for 2008. We just moved to a new house and office, so not a lot of time at the moment, but once we are settled here, I'll be back!

Aaron J. Halpern · #41 12-03-2007, 07:23 PM

I would like to have a question answered for me ? The question is in the key of (A) their are three sharps F#,C# and G# could these three chords be the the C#min7, the F#min7,and the G#min7b5.

dirkji · #42 12-04-2007, 04:00 AM

That's correct, Aaron.

- Dirk

Jeff · #43 12-05-2007, 07:50 PM

Hi,
Trying to pick out whether a lick is an arpeggio or not
I was trying to figure out Chris Standrings song, "Through The Looking Glass" on his Soul Express CD. Chris was kind enough to inform me that the song is in the key of Fm. So could his melody line in there be a minor arpeggio?
Thanks
Jeff

dirkji · #44 12-11-2007, 11:45 AM

Jeff, Chris Standring's theme is a combination of the Abmaj and Dbmaj arpeggio.

federer · #45 01-18-2008, 11:51 AM

I'm a new member and this site and the arpeggion lesson are great. After reading a number of the threads and posts (butch,derek, Mr. beaumont) I'm shifting my study strategy from scales and positions to arpeggios and chord tones. I'm learning the dom. 7ths in all the keys right now. I study them in the cycle of 5ths order clockwise.
Seems like it would make sense to learn the arps in the 2-5-1 progressions as they're so prevalent in jazz and there's a minor7th, dom 7th and maj 7th in each one. I wrote out the arps for 2-5-1 in C and noticed that the 1st and 3rd of Dmi7 become the 5th and 7th of G7 (D&F notes) and the same relationship happens between th 5 & 1 chords. Lot
If anyone else has used this approach successfully (arps and 2-5-1's) I'd like to hear about it.
Great site..so much stuff...
Thanks

Chordon Bleu · #46 01-19-2008, 10:19 PM

YouTube - Yngwie Malmsteen-Arpeggios From Hell

Heres some arrpegios.

federer · #47 01-20-2008, 10:55 AM

Thanks Chordon Beu I will check these out...

Gustaff · #48 01-25-2008, 01:25 PM

first, thanks a lot that you exist, Dirk

I have mailed you, but you didn't notice it or smth... there's one note missing in half-diminished chord arpeggio's last position starting on A. F note on 5th string is missing, please add it

Gustaff · #49 02-21-2008, 05:23 AM

if I'm mistaken then tell me that I'm mistaken...

dirkji · #50 02-21-2008, 06:26 AM

Thanks for letting me know Gustaff. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I can't keep up with my mail.

Gustaff · #51 02-21-2008, 07:40 AM

effectpeter · #52 07-11-2008, 08:15 AM

Just letting you know, I'm new to this, since I got SX acoustic guitar a few months ago, this jazz in an insperation. I stopped playing the guitar 25 years ago, don't ask me way, I just did. Now I'm picking in up pretty easy, yet I'm still learning lots.
I am not on the internet I use the local library, therefore I'm a little slow on learning jazz guitar and getting feed back and questions I may have but I will over come this

. best of all it;s great fun

carl · #53 09-04-2008, 10:54 AM

im having a hard time understanding the whole arpeggio thing i dunno what note i should start with... and why i should start there... for e.g. the other website said if i was on the chord d i should start with f#???? it didnt say why though... can u please help a newbie like me??

derek · #54 09-04-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by carl

im having a hard time understanding the whole arpeggio thing i dunno what note i should start with... and why i should start there... for e.g. the other website said if i was on the chord d i should start with f#???? it didnt say why though... can u please help a newbie like me??

There are lots of books out there with various arpeggio shapes, and if you pick one up, I recommend Mimi Fox's (Mel Bay). After she runs you thru various shapes of major, minor, dominant, etc, she uses parts of standards to have you use them over real chord progressions.

They aren't too tough to sort out though. Look at a 6th string root major 7th chord shape. Start on the root (6th string), then staying within the shape of the chord, play the 3rd, 5th, & 7th for an octave. You will then run into another root, and you can continue on to the first string with a 2 octave arp.

Take a minor 7 chord and do the same, repeat for dominant 7, half diminished and diminished 7th chords. I strongly recommend saying or singing the degrees as you play them, so for minor; root, b3, 5, b7.

After you work this out for a 6th string root chord, then repeat for 5th string root chords. This will give you major, minor, dom, half dim, and dim arpeggios for 2 different positions on the neck. Practice them around the key circle so you can do any chord/key. Will take 2-4 months of steady work, depending on your ability, to get them down cold.

Once you get them though, they are the handiest improv devices imo. Good luck

shelgunther · #55 09-07-2008, 03:31 AM

It's a shame this website isn't more "printer friendly." It would make practicing these exercises a bit easier and more inviting...

skei · #56 09-07-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shelgunther

It's a shame this website isn't more "printer friendly." It would make practicing these exercises a bit easier and more inviting...

Well,
what I do is, I save the lessons I need often as pdf, at least on mac there's a 'print as pdf' way, if you go to 'print'. I don't know about pc,
Peace
&
Keep on going, always
Skei (the mac one)

shelgunther · #57 09-07-2008, 09:49 AM

I copy and paste into MSWord... it would be nice if the site/page had a "printer friendly" button... just a 'wish list' item...

Ben · #58 10-07-2008, 05:55 AM

Do you guys have any tips for improvising? I have Band in a Box and I have memorized these shapes off by heart. I have trying to play random notes but whatever I come up with sounds the same if you know what I mean. How did you guys learn to improvise? Do I just have to keep at it everyday and maybe it will click? Do I need to learn other licks to get some ideas?

m78w · #59 10-07-2008, 08:55 AM

Start checking out licks, learn lines and try and fit them into the shapes that you've already learned. The licks might use notes outside of the shapes, but it will give you an idea of how to build your own lines using the shapes you already know, if that makes sense.

MW

skei · #60 10-07-2008, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

Do you guys have any tips for improvising? I have Band in a Box and I have memorized these shapes off by heart. I have trying to play random notes but whatever I come up with sounds the same if you know what I mean. How did you guys learn to improvise? Do I just have to keep at it everyday and maybe it will click? Do I need to learn other licks to get some ideas?

Saw your post, and felt I was exactly where you're at, only a few weeks ago. It's discouraging and feels like dark matter, as DNA would perhaps have said.
Now, only a few weeks after having been in the 'limbo' state for what seems like an eternity of running up and down shapes and stuff, one morning, after listening to Parker, can't recall what tune, it just 'clicked', much like you said, and I could just play and follow the music without thinking about what I was doing. Much like a shadow following a body, or so it seems. I just followed the discussions here, sucking up all pieces of knowhow that might surface. And started playing off of the third. That was the key for me. Now it feels natural, and lots of those things I hear when listening to the pros, here and elsewhere, started making sense when I thought of the third degree.
But you should know, I've been at it every day for some 7-10 hours since christmas. I'm unemployed, probably due to my being an artist and enjoying only jazz. It comes if you keep at it. It does, and it feels super when it finally does. But there's no end, now the goal is understanding Coltrane, and of course acquiring the speed necessary to do his stuff without making it sound too bad. So there's no end.
Peace
&
The third...
Skei (the third one)