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04-17-2011, 08:08 PM
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| | Standard Practical Group (Days Of Wine & Roses) Since Tom (Oilyrag) will not be here for a short time and in anticipation of Wine & Roses winning 1st place in our vote, I have put together a jazz arrangement to get started with for "Days Of Wine & Roses". Just for fun, pretend you have an opportunity to play with a Bill Evans type of trio and go for it. This is a BIAB jazz style with real tracks and real drums based on a Bill Evans trio sound. Th real drummer is actually Terry Clark. I must apologize for a bit of background noise, my recording equipment is not great. Please let me know if it works ok for you. Days Of Wine & Roses.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage Days Of Wine & Roses.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
enjoy ( hope)
wiz
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04-18-2011, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wizard3739 | kewl!! | 
04-18-2011, 03:47 PM
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| | Bill Evans...
In this version, with Toots Thielemans, they change keys for the second half. The first 16 are in F, the 2nd 16 in Ab.
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04-18-2011, 04:31 PM
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| | from the movie Thanks Ken, This has always been my favorite version of the song. Bill Evans is my favorite piano player and "Toots" is my favorite harmonica player. Toots also plays a pretty good guitar. I always thought this song was in F minor.
wiz | 
04-20-2011, 11:02 AM
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| | A couple of backing tracks Wiz what a great job you have been doing,thanks.You are right about the tune changing key to Ab for the 2nd 16 bars it depends which book you get it from..To follow on from Howies backing tracks here are two versions that I did a while ago for someone on these boards.One has no guitar part so anyone wanting any comping practice it's up to you the chords are the same as Howie's( I think!! )  the tempo is @135..The other one is just a backing track @120 with a 4 bar intro and 4 bar tag ending.. www.box.net/shared/syieagvsb3 No Guitar part @135 www.box.net/shared/mcf40t5kq1 Track @120
Cheers,
Tom | 
04-20-2011, 05:28 PM
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| | Speaking of keys... Of all the tunes we've done, I've come across more versions in more different keys than any of them. It's probably because there are so many vocal versions.
So I entered the melody, lyrics, and chords into Finale. If anybody wants a version in another key, I can transpose it and print off a pdf. Just let me know.
Here's a good vocal version in a ballad style in our key of F... Andy Williams sings.
There are some good female vocal versions and one of Tony Bennett with Bill Evans. I think the meaning of the lyrics and vocal expression of the melody will put you in the right mood to do a chord melody at a ballad tempo. | 
04-20-2011, 05:46 PM
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04-20-2011, 05:50 PM
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| | Love that tony bennett/ bill evans version.
I just posted this one--a solo arrangement. Maybe I'll do a recording to one of these backing trqacks ans "talk my way through it."
It's a great tune. | 
04-20-2011, 07:01 PM
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Lenny playing it. One mic, in a cabin, a honda generator to provide electricity for the recorder, no prep!
Dang!!! | 
04-20-2011, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont I just posted this one--a solo arrangement. | Beautiful!! | 
04-21-2011, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sgreb
Lenny playing it. One mic, in a cabin, a honda generator to provide electricity for the recorder, no prep!
Dang!!! |
Seems like I dislike this record, may be because of my past classical guitar education, but thats really dirty for the nylon stringed guitar...Thats the point, where idea is higher than the tehnique...Just my point of view)) | 
04-21-2011, 05:34 AM
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04-21-2011, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kenbennett Bill Evans...
In this version, with Toots Thielemans, they change keys for the second half. The first 16 are in F, the 2nd 16 in Ab. | Bill talks about that "trick" in his Piano Jazz interview with Marian McPartland - a very rewarding listen imo  | 
04-21-2011, 08:22 AM
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| | going up a Minor third is pretty common for cats who came up in the 70's on tunes that are ABAC type tunes. Days of Wine is probably the most common tune that way. The other is up or down a Whole Step. I recall on many gigs with a Trombone player where if you called a tune like Emily or Days of Wine that he'd say "Okay, Emily in C and Eflat" and that's how it was and he didn't care if you didn't know the tune in Eflat hehe. Of course it's not horribly difficult to transpose on the fly.
Other examples like that are playing "On Green Dolphin Street", "Night and Day"(alternating choruses) in C to Eflat. "It Could Happen to You" in F to Eflat. It spices things up easily and for capable Players requires no rehearsal.
Days of Wine depending on where you are is by default in two keys. It's something you have to ask when someone calls that tune. Sort of like "Well You Needn't" or "Round Midnight" (which bridge?) or "In Your Own Sweet Way" (vamp or no vamp, what vamp?) | 
04-21-2011, 06:39 PM
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| | Cool track Mr. B | 
04-21-2011, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Swinger Seems like I dislike this record, may be because of my past classical guitar education, but thats really dirty for the nylon stringed guitar...Thats the point, where idea is higher than the tehnique...Just my point of view)) | I have never in my life heard anyone state that Lenny Breau was lacking in technique. He is the epitome of amalgamating jazz with classical, flamenco and country (and those harmonics!!). To my ears he is the closest thing we have to a "Keith Jarrett of the guitar" (if any such thing is even possible)
Once again... in a cabin, no prep, purely improvised. Polished?...no. But wow!!
More perspective...
"Breau had continual drug problems from the mid 1960s, which he only managed to get under control during the last years of his life."
"This undated studio session came about after a friend, Glen McDonald, bailed Breau out of jail and isolated him in his remote cabin -- which lacked electricity, heat, running water, or plumbing -- in an effort to straighten him out. So how was this session recorded? Breau, who plays acoustic guitar (a loaner) throughout this CD, was taped because a generator was available to power the tape machine and two microphones"
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04-22-2011, 12:26 AM
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| | solo version from Mr. B Jeff, all of your music is very good but IMHO, "Days Of Wine And Roses" is exceptional. The chords were choice with great execution and the guitar tone was perfect. Your lines were excellent and the presentation was also excellent and clearly shows the sensitivity you have for the music. I loved it and hope you continue to post your tunes.
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04-22-2011, 06:38 AM
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| | Hi guys!
Happy Easter to everybody)
Thanks for all the information and for the thread in general...
Please, check out my morning recording in showcase thread and enjoy it: http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/showc...tml#post139594
Hope to hear from you soon)) | 
04-22-2011, 07:04 AM
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| | Hey Swinger,you could have posted the link to your tune here as well as in the showcase thread( then folks would know what I am commenting on) but hey thats just me.Once again nice tone and feel for the tune.
Cheers
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04-22-2011, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by oilywrag Hey Swinger,you could have posted the link to your tune here as well as in the showcase thread( then folks would know what I am commenting on) but hey thats just me.Once again nice tone and feel for the tune.
Cheers
Tom  |
Oh, sorry, Tom, I just would like to collect all the comments in the showcase's thread)) Here is the dirrect link: The Days Of Wine And Roses - Free MP3 Download, Lyrics & Chords
Thank you for you comment! | 
04-22-2011, 08:22 AM
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| | Good pickin' from swinger and whippersnapper. | 
04-22-2011, 10:05 AM
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| |  Hey Jamie that sounds really good
Thanks for sharing it here
Cheers,
Tom  | 
04-22-2011, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by oilywrag  Hey Jamie that sounds really good
Thanks for sharing it here
Cheers,
Tom  | JamMie))))) He is Jamey, actually)))
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04-22-2011, 11:24 AM
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| | Here is a quick take, with a few misses, on this tune, playing on a classical guitar. This one is also played entirely by ear using the melody as a guide.
what I hear is that the main key is F and there is a place where it shift to Ab and then back to F and at the end a very short shift to F#.
on the last improv chorus I forgot the shift to F# dowar.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage | 
04-22-2011, 12:30 PM
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| | Hey Uri that sounds fine on the classical guitar.Must say you have your ear working well on this one.Thanks for posting..
Cheers
Tom  | 
04-22-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Swinger JamMie))))) He is Jamey, actually))) |
Hey Swinger do you have some sort of problem with something I posted or
Is it just your way of posting a little humour into the thread???The way I read the name on the soundcloud acc..Is jamie.h
Cheers
Tom  | 
04-22-2011, 03:05 PM
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| | Hey Tom 10x | 
04-22-2011, 08:55 PM
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| | Hey Swinger,
Why do you want comments posted on your separate showcase thread?
I'd encourage you to join this group/thread. The spirit of this thread is; a bunch of friends hang out and playing some music, giving tips, and encouraging each other. | 
04-23-2011, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by oilywrag Hey Swinger do you have some sort of problem with something I posted or
Is it just your way of posting a little humour into the thread???The way I read the name on the soundcloud acc..Is jamie.h
Cheers
Tom  | Hey, Tom!
I don't have any problems with your posting or anybody else here, I'm very friendly oriented here especially)) I just was joking about the name of Abersold, I thought you was kidding about his name, cause I was using his track)) Sorry, may be it was misunderstanding, and on my book by him the name is Jamey)) Forget about, anyway, lets enjoy the music, the friendship,the passion to jazz and guitar...So many beautiful thing, so less time to live and enjoy))
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04-23-2011, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fep Hey Swinger,
Why do you want comments posted on your separate showcase thread?
I'd encourage you to join this group/thread. The spirit of this thread is; a bunch of friends hang out and playing some music, giving tips, and encouraging each other. | Hey fep, I absolutely don't mind to read your comments in this thread, just thought that it would be correct to post recording for the judgement in Showcase brunch)) Anyway, please comment it here, I'll be extremely pleased for that! Cheers! | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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