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oilywrag · #1 02-01-2011, 02:25 PM

The new song is " Bright Size Life "

Backing track here
Pdf here BSLchords.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

If anyone wants the melody then PM me.....

Enjoy

Tom

mr. beaumont · #2 02-01-2011, 02:28 PM

Ah--my first two cents will be--a tune where modal thinking actually makes sense!

wizard3739 · #3 02-01-2011, 02:42 PM

"Bright Size Life" will be fun for me since I haven't spent much time on it. I listened to Pat Methenys' utube version and am looking forward to listening to how other members of our forum approach the song.

wiz

oilywrag · #4 02-02-2011, 03:20 PM

So you know the tune...

YouTube - Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life

enjoy,

Tom

Sailor · #5 02-02-2011, 06:09 PM

I don't like the Metheny version...is there a definitive "classic" version to reccomend??

Sailor

BigDaddyLoveHandles · #6 02-02-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor

I don't like the Metheny version...is there a definitive "classic" version to reccomend??

Sailor

The original version is on his debut album, of the same name. I can't find it on youtube, though, too many covers!

M-ster · #7 02-02-2011, 09:09 PM

Yes, it's Metheny's tune. You can't get more classic. Just a note from the peanut gallery: the chord that is labeled "Bbmaj7b5/A" actually has Bb in the bass.

There's a lead sheet in the original Real Book (that I don't have at hand); but I listened to the video link.

Sailor · #8 02-02-2011, 09:18 PM

I'll have to sit this one out

Not a fan but I will listen to it and watch the comments...I'm sure I will learn something.

Sailor

sgreb · #9 02-02-2011, 11:56 PM

Here is the original

http://www.4shared.com/audio/oWeVkYs...etheny_-_.html

and a great duo with Ulf Wakenius
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...56575284842969#

What a great tune. One I have been chipping away at for a while. I love all of the versions he has released (check out the live version on "Pat Metheny Trio- Live") and the videos too. Each one offers something new. Also, if you can find it Martin Taylor did a cool duo version of this tune in 1979

I'll post my approach to this tune soon.

Dazz · #10 02-03-2011, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sgreb

Here is the original

Jaco Pastorius & Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life.mp3 - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download

and a great duo with Ulf Wakenius
Pat Metheny & Ulf Wakenius - Bright Size Life#

What a great tune. One I have been chipping away at for a while. I love all of the versions he has released (check out the live version on "Pat Metheny Trio- Live") and the videos too. Each one offers something new. Also, if you can find it Martin Taylor did a cool duo version of this tune in 1979

I'll post my approach to this tune soon.

Thanks for that;
I did not know the tune and found a lead sheet with the melody that looks reasonably accurate in a BIAB realbook collection. It takes some figuring out to play the melody at close to full speed but it is a hell of a tune! It is the single nicest piece of music I have played in ages; nice choice folks!

The slash chords all look scary but from what I can see on youtube and from some guessing, some of them use a lot of open strings and are actually simple to finger.

Des

Dazz · #11 02-03-2011, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by M-ster

Yes, it's Metheny's tune. You can't get more classic. Just a note from the peanut gallery: the chord that is labeled "Bbmaj7b5/A" actually has Bb in the bass.

There's a lead sheet in the original Real Book (that I don't have at hand); but I listened to the video link.

I wish I had your ears; from what I can read on the net, that chord can be voiced as x03330 on the guitar which gives an A in the bass but Jaco Pastorius played a Bb on his bass on the original. The Bb in the bass would suggest you play Bb Lydian here?

Des

Banksia · #12 02-03-2011, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor

I don't like the Metheny version...is there a definitive "classic" version to reccomend??

Sailor

Whoa! careful there Sailor. I once criticised Joe Pass on this forum and I had to change my name and post from Siberia for 3 months after that.

I didn't have a copy of this either. I got a Metheny album 30 years ago - during his synth phase - and didn't listen to PM again for 20 years.

Reg · #13 02-03-2011, 07:56 AM

Hey, It's not my favorite tune either...haven't played since is I was at Berklee when Metheny was there, I hear it as a rock tune. But will still go through our process of analysis and playing of tune... Best Reg

Sailor · #14 02-03-2011, 08:17 AM

"Whoa! careful there Sailor. I once criticised Joe Pass on this forum and I had to change my name and post from Siberia for 3 months after that.

"...LOL!!!

Yeah...sounds like a rock tune to me too...Hey, I'm old...!!

Rock on dudes, Sailor

BigDaddyLoveHandles · #15 02-03-2011, 08:43 AM

Rock tune? It's a good thing we didn't pick Phase Dance!

Dazz · #16 02-03-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles

Rock tune? It's a good thing we didn't pick Phase Dance!

I am working on a Chord Melody version of Paranoid by Sabbath.

BigDaddyLoveHandles · #17 02-03-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazz

I am working on a Chord Melody version of Paranoid by Sabbath.

I'm trying to get my church choir to sing "Crazy Train"

Banksia · #18 02-03-2011, 11:09 AM

YouTube Video

sgreb · #19 02-03-2011, 12:36 PM

Ok... back to the song.

The jam track supplied, does seem a bit to "rocky". I find it better to perceive it as a somewhat of a bossa. If you listen to Metheny's Live version (with Larry Grenadier and Bill Stewart), it becomes more apparent.

Once it's in the performance stage, however, all players need to increase the ambiguity of that latin feel.

You might want to try working with this BIAB file instead. I have also only included bass and drums, as this is a trio piece.

http://www.box.net/shared/r0dfzz0env

oilywrag · #20 02-03-2011, 12:50 PM

I don't think that link works!!!

cheers

Tom

oilywrag · #21 02-03-2011, 01:28 PM

Ok guys,as some people would like a trio setting then here is a drum and bass track, the bass is a bit lively but I don't have to pay him..

enjoy,

Tom

sgreb · #22 02-03-2011, 02:20 PM

BSL_IMRPOV

In the above link, I wrote down how I perceive the song from an improv perspective.

I am self-taught (before the internet) and utilized my ear mostly to arrive at these conclusions.

Essentially the song alternates back and forth from DMaj to Dmin tonalities. There are some other deviations, which I noted.

This is just my simple mind in action, but it seems to work well to enable excellent improv over this tune.

BigDaddyLoveHandles · #23 02-03-2011, 02:38 PM

I just checked. Pat Metheny is 56. I feel old!

Reg · #24 02-03-2011, 04:16 PM

Wow Tom... great track. Really, that make me want to play, sounds like Charlie Moffett. I liked the other one also, but the room here... will be fun... Thanks Reg

kenbennett · #25 02-03-2011, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-ster

Yes, it's Metheny's tune. You can't get more classic. Just a note from the peanut gallery: the chord that is labeled "Bbmaj7b5/A" actually has Bb in the bass.

There's a lead sheet in the original Real Book (that I don't have at hand); but I listened to the video link.

That Bb chord, as Metheny plays it in the video, is melody note on the open E, then D, Bb, F, and the open A string. The bass player is definitely playing Bb. So I'm going to call the chord Bbmaj7#11.

[Edit: I just saw Dazz's post. That's the fingering Pat uses, x03330.]

I have the real book chart. It has some funky parts in the melody that Pat doesn't seem to be playing in the video. It's the first measure of G/A and the first measure of A/E.

I like this song.

Reg · #26 02-06-2011, 01:24 PM

Cool I just Listen to Tune... thanks for link. Very cool, not really my thing, but I'll fake my way through. I'll make Video now, after I read some post... my morning paper... Reg

Reg · #27 02-06-2011, 04:09 PM

YouTube Video

Cool Here's a version of BSL.. I listen to version and tried to cover head in similar feel. This is extremely rough... I just read through with memory of sample ... I think it's a difficult head... And as much as I dig Toms version with Bass and Drums... it was hard to feel time... If I played it a few times would probable start to get the right feel... but it's good to see how I trashed the tune... great entertainment... have fun. I hear the tune as a deceptive rock tune with cool melody... I still don't hear the C nat. on the A/E, I see it could be octave displacement of blue note... just don't hear, reminds me of Scofield lick. The analysis is pretty straight ahead, IV, bVI, I, yada yada Reg

Dazz · #28 02-06-2011, 05:15 PM

cool post/vid Reg!!

wizard3739 · #29 02-06-2011, 07:14 PM

Another good video Reg! Thanks for posting.

wiz

jayx123 · #30 02-07-2011, 08:49 AM

Hey Reg that was great, I really liked that fast digital pattern run towards the end