The Standard Practical Group

[Reg]

Hey Sgreb.... way cool man, I dig it... that's the way that tune should sound. Nice bass player... Reg

[wizard3739]

Congrats Sgreb, your video is well done and your improv sounds great to me. I like the clarity of view of your left and right hand during the improv. Thanks for posting,

wiz

[markf]

nice!

[sgreb]

Hey thanks for the kind remarks. It is a tough piece!

So......Look at what I found.

Metheny, Jaco and Bob Moses, playing this song live at Pooh’s Pub, Boston June 1974.

It's great to hear him working stuff out. He even messes up the head a bit and it sounds like he and Jaco have a different idea as to where the "lick should be played on the head out.(guess you can forgive them...they were only teenagers!)

Regardless a slice of his formative history and some pretty far reaching stuff for the era!

Jaco sounds great (although a bit distorted).

http://urge2burge.files.wordpress.co...-size-life.mp3

[kenbennett]

Bright Size Jaco

Here's a version of sgreb's backing track edited to play out to the end.

That was 2 fine takes, sgreb! I think you've got it.

[fep]

Sgreb, great job, I really enjoyed both your takes.

You sometimes have a very verticle approach (up and down the neck on the same set of strings). Similar to Metheny. Is that something you conciously worked on?

I was wondering if you mostly see chord shapes as landmarks when your soloing... or arpeggios or scales or ?

To me your right hand technique looks very much lick Reg's. I'm starting to get convinced I need to change my right hand technique a bit to emulate the two of you.

Cheers and thanks for posting.

[sgreb]

Originally Posted by fep

Sgreb, great job, I really enjoyed both your takes.

You sometimes have a very verticle approach (up and down the neck on the same set of strings). Similar to Metheny. Is that something you conciously worked on?

I was wondering if you mostly see chord shapes as landmarks when your soloing... or arpeggios or scales or ?

To me your right hand technique looks very much lick Reg's. I'm starting to get convinced I need to change my right hand technique a bit to emulate the two of you.


Cheers and thanks for posting.

Hey thanks for the nice words.

Since you ask... my style is self taught and has evolved over time (too much) . I see pictures of scale positions, extended scale forms, arpeggios, intervals, licks and chords. Some how this hodge-podge works out into something relativley coherent. In the end it does leave me exploring a lot of the neck.
I have also done some work on playing on single strings or 2 adjacent etc

Right hand... combination of alt picking and hybrid picking. Generally excecuted completly unconsciously.

Thanks again.

Steve

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by sgreb

BSL_IMRPOV

In the above link, I wrote down how I perceive the song from an improv perspective.

I am self-taught (before the internet) and utilized my ear mostly to arrive at these conclusions.

Essentially the song alternates back and forth from DMaj to Dmin tonalities. There are some other deviations, which I noted.

This is just my simple mind in action, but it seems to work well to enable excellent improv over this tune.

I just noticed you had posted the pdf above; thanks for that and the vids!
Going between DM and Dm like that does sound good!

[lilsnooppowg]

hmm... Seems i gat a whole lot of home work to do

[Reg]

New tune time... Tom will hopefully put together... as always thanks Tom, for all your input...Best Reg

[ejwhite09]

I need to buy some new technology! I thought it'd be easy to do on my phone but its not.

[Sailor]

How about a swing tune??

Sailor

[M. Smit]

All of me would be fun
So if I am allowed to make a suggestion for a poll candidate.
that would be it.

[Sailor]

I "second" that...All of Me

Sailor

[oilywrag]

Ok people I'm going to run a poll for the new tune it will be for 4 days..
It is in the "Everything Else" forum...

Cheers,

Tom

[sgreb]

Gee, I was really looking forward to hearing other people's versions of Bright Size Life.

Anyone game??

[oilywrag]

Sgreb just because there will be a new tune it doesn't stop anyone posting there version of BSL here

Cheers

Tom

The new poll is now active

[limjaz]

My teacher's BSL jam


YouTube - ‪Bright Size Life‬‏

[Reg]

The more I hear this tune... the more I hear it as a pretty simple rock tune... Take a few yakity yak choruses and then just wail....

[sgreb]

Originally Posted by Reg

The more I hear this tune... the more I hear it as a pretty simple rock tune... Take a few yakity yak choruses and then just wail....

I think that this comment diminishes the harmonic sophistication and melodic possibilities that this song presents. Although it can be broken down into a simple thinking process, I feel reducing it to a basic rock approach is a mistake.

Also I know many "rock guitarists" who would look at this tune and have no idea as to how to approach it in the first place. More importantly most "rock guitarists" would not consider this a "rock song" and would have very little interest in tackling it.

That said, if the drummer plays a rock beat, your bass player nails the tonic on every beat 1, and your accompanist plays rhythmically straight, the song will definitely lean well into a land of ROCK!! (or perhaps bad fusion).

So... lets try it! ROCK ON!!!! (hold on to your britches)

....have to pull out my early 90's Technicolor rock guitar for this

I hope Pat never gets wind of this joke

YouTube Video

[fep]

woot Sgreb, that was a blast. You had me smiling thru the whole tune.

So you're not always Mr. Serious jazz musician.

Music should be fun!

[Reg]

OK... maybe I shouldn't have said Rock, as a jazz player... we tend to call simple, single harmonic pentatonic hang outs and wail ...rock... more of a slang term... I stand corrected... but it was well worth being wrong... that was great entertainment... just long enough. And yea... that's close to what I had in mind... maybe a little different, but close enough... Thanks Reg

[Reg]

Originally Posted by fep

woot Sgreb, that was a blast. You had me smiling thru the whole tune.

So you're not always Mr. Serious jazz musician.

Music should be fun!

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