Need help to analyse 2 wes phrases

[youns]

Hi!
I never posted on this forum, but i read it daily. Now i can't find the answer in an existing thread. I have a problem with a part of wes d-natural blues solo : here are the two phrases, they are on his second chorus :

YouTube - D7 to G7.wmv

YouTube - G7.wmv

For the first one (D7 to G7), he plays an altered line. But i can't find from where these notes come from.
The second phrase is on G7 and its the same thing.

Could you explain me from where these phrases come from ?
Thanks,
Youness

(sorry for my english !)

[Jazzyteach65]

The first one you posted is based around the Ab7 (a tritone of D7) I heard a diminished idea there, too which Wes did a lot of.

The second one (i forget where that line comes harmonically) but if over a G7 it sounds like a transition from D to G7-you're starting on D maj scale, then going to G7 by using D melodic minor, when you hit the F. That scale can be used to create the IV chord into a 7th, think of it like thismajor going to a quick ii-V dm-G7

[fep]

D7 to G7

Yep, that's hard to analyze, but it is a real nice sounding line. So, I'm not sure this is what he was thinking but

The first 6 notes seem to be a 'sidestepping' line. That is he's playing a half step below the D7 on a Db7 and resolving into the D7 when he plays the F#.

F Gb Ab Bb Db F = 3 4 5 6 1 3 or the Db7 chord, then F# D = 3 and 1 of the D7 chord.

The F Eb D C Bb Ab Gb (or F#), this is a altered scale over the D7 chord (Eb melodic minor = D7 altered scale).

Presumably the next note would be a G? Which would resolve into the G7 chord.

[fep]

The second line.

Let's call the F# a chromatic approach to the G.

The rest of the line is from the D melodic minor scale. D melodic minor contains all the notes of a G7 chord and all the notes of an A7 chord.

Is he playing over D minor, G7 or A7?... opinions could vary. Only Wes know for sure.

He was one to backpedal so my bet is A7.

[youns]

Thank you for your clear explanations, there is just one thing I don't understand : what is a backpedal ?
This is my first wes and also first jazz guitar transcription, for the beginners who read this, there is a great lesson from Adrian Ingram which explains wes style and explains very well substitutions that wes often uses. It helps me a lot, I recommend it : Guitar Style of Wes Montgomery DVD - taught by Adrian Ingram - GW958DVD | Mel Bay Publications, Inc.

Youness

[fep]

Originally Posted by youns

Thank you for your clear explanations, there is just one thing I don't understand : what is a backpedal ?

Oops, wrong word, sorry about that.

I meant to write 'backcycle'.

Backcycle refers to starting back somewhere on the circle of 5ths and working your way back thru a progression of the circle of fifths.

For example if your chord was a G and you wanted to make things interesting:

Orginal:
|G | G |
Reharmonized with a backcycle:
|D7 | G |
or
|A7 D7 | G |
or
|E7 A7|D7 G|
or
|Am7 D7|G |

and you could backcycle and use tritone subs
So
|G | G |
becomes
|Am7 D7 | G |
becomes
|Am7 Ab7 | G |

Etc. etc... there are a lot of possibilities

So if the accompainment stays on G, and you play a line based off a backcycle you will play 'outside' notes but; your line will take a logical journey back to the G, and hopefully... musical. At least it sure sounded musical when Wes would do it.