Songs with a lot of major chords?

**Hep To The Jive** · 12-25-2017, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

well the 1st progression is extremely common

That's the point. Common= much easier to memorize. Also, to my ears, it's simply fits the melody better, more organic flow if I may. The 'correct' one, is a bit brain f...k, it's ok, but I have harder time singing the melody while playing it. I realized that's what kept me from memorizing this lovely tune for good for a long time, my ears do not accept this chord change.

I wonder, what are the chances the second one was created out of... 'hey, this sounds great, but the progression is extremely common, let's do something else' thinking.

**christianm77** · 12-25-2017, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive

That's the point. Common= much easier to memorize. Also, to my ears, it's simply fits the melody better, more organic flow if I may. The 'correct' one, is a bit brain f...k, it's ok, but I have harder time singing the melody while playing it. I realized that's what kept me from memorizing this lovely tune for good for a long time, my ears do not accept this chord change.

I wonder, what are the chances the second one was created out of... 'hey, this sounds great, but the progression is extremely common, let's do something else' thinking.

Well I can't hear it with those other changes. I listened to Four and More obsessively at one point, and whenever I called the tune at a jam, people would play the real book changes and I found it really horrible.

Anyway, I don't think the second one is that weird. You should see some the shit I have to deal with. :-)

Certainly that move Ebm7 Ab7 Fm is not that common a resolution... You'd expect a Db, Eb or maybe a Bb chord there.

But as with Jobim, often just a touch of weirdness in an otherwise conventional tune is the thing that makes it.

**christianm77** · 12-25-2017, 08:17 PM

Actually Tenderly has it:

| Eb | Ab7 | Ebm | Ab7 |
| Fm7 | Db7 | Eb | etc

**Hep To The Jive** · 12-25-2017, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

Well I can't hear it with those other changes. I listened to Four and More obsessively at one point, and whenever I called the tune at a jam, people would play the real book changes and I found it really horrible.

Anyway, I don't think the second one is that weird. You should see some the shit I have to deal with. :-)

Certainly that move Ebm7 Ab7 Fm is not that common a resolution... You'd expect a Db, Eb or maybe a Bb chord there.

But as with Jobim, often just a touch of weirdness in an otherwise conventional tune is the thing that makes it.

I dunno, I guess we hear music different. I love the wrong one better. The correct one is not really weird, just awkward.

Jobim, yes, wouldn't change a note or a chord in any of his tunes, it's a whole different level of tune writing. Miles on the other hand... But the melodic part in Four is awesome, don't care for the rest.