SYMETRICAL DIMINISHED from John Scofield

[kris]

Some nice jazz lines created by John Scofield on his "On Improvistion" edu.video.
Symetrical Diminished scale -one of most important scale in jazz.
Works nice over alt. dominant chords.

[FatJeff]

Thanks for posting this, Kris. I've been working on the diminished scale(s) for a few months now and was just looking for some more interesting lines.

Do you have the Scoefield video? Is it good?

[aniss1001]

Cool thanks I've seem only bits of this video on youtube. Don't recall this part. Is the entire video available online for free somewhere or...?

[FatJeff]

I looked for it on Amazon...you can get old VHS copies from some unscrupulous sellers but those jack-wads are asking for $100.00. I think I might have seen parts of this before a couple of years ago - is this the one where he starts going through the modes of the major scale with amazingly interesting results?

[kris]

Originally Posted by FatJeff

Thanks for posting this, Kris. I've been working on the diminished scale(s) for a few months now and was just looking for some more interesting lines.

Do you have the Scoefield video? Is it good?

Yes.. I have video.
" On Improvisation"...one of the best instructional video .
John made it in 1983...

[kris]

Originally Posted by aniss1001

Cool thanks I've seem only bits of this video on youtube. Don't recall this part. Is the entire video available online for free somewhere or...?

I think so...it is possible free.

[kris]

Originally Posted by FatJeff

I looked for it on Amazon...you can get old VHS copies from some unscrupulous sellers but those jack-wads are asking for $100.00. I think I might have seen parts of this before a couple of years ago - is this the one where he starts going through the modes of the major scale with amazingly interesting results?

Sure. It is this one.

[FatJeff]

Too bad it isn't available on DVD. But I've been able to find a lot of it on YouTube. I think what I'm taking away from watching these clips is that I still have a lot of work left to do with the major, melodic minor, whole-tone and diminished scales. :-)

[kris]

Originally Posted by FatJeff

Too bad it isn't available on DVD. But I've been able to find a lot of it on YouTube. I think what I'm taking away from watching these clips is that I still have a lot of work left to do with the major, melodic minor, whole-tone and diminished scales. :-)

A lot of work.
This video has a lot of interesting things.GREAT SCOF!!!!

[Nuff Said]

Isn't this "Symmetrical Diminished scale" the same as the "Half whole tone scale" we've been using for a long, long time.

Nuff

[kris]

Originally Posted by Nuff Said

Isn't this "Symmetrical Diminished scale" the same as the "Half whole tone scale" we've been using for a long, long time.

Nuff

Yes.

[FatJeff]

Originally Posted by Nuff Said

Isn't this "Symmetrical Diminished scale" the same as the "Half whole tone scale" we've been using for a long, long time.

Nuff

Sure, but were you using it in 1983? :-)

Anyway, this was a master class, so it's more educational than it is visionary.

[brwnhornet59]

Originally Posted by Nuff Said

Isn't this "Symmetrical Diminished scale" the same as the "Half whole tone scale" we've been using for a long, long time.

Nuff

Yes Sir!! H/W and W/H are the two variations of the theme.

[Nuff Said]

Originally Posted by FatJeff

Sure, but were you using it in 1983?

Thelonius Monk was a master at these sounds way back in the 1930/40's.

An easy song to check out is Epistrophy
http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/attac...d=132837072 6

Nuff

[kris]

Originally Posted by Nuff Said

Thelonius Monk was a master at these sounds way back in the 1930/40's.

An easy song to check out is Epistrophy
http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/attac...d=132837072 6

Nuff

Do not forget about "Diminushing" by Django Reinhardt/1947/...
Great new take of this song made James Carter with Adam Rogers on guitar/2009/.

[FatJeff]

I know guys, I was just pointing out that this was an instructional video that was showing students about the diminished scale; I don't think it was Scofield's intent to be breaking any new ground here.

[Nuff Said]

Originally Posted by FatJeff

I know guys, I was just pointing out that this was an instructional video that was showing students about the diminished scale; I don't think it was Scofield's intent to be breaking any new ground here.

I think we all agree, I was only trying to make it clear to any Forum members who might not know that the "Symmetrical Diminished scale" is the same as the "Half whole tone scale".

Nuff

[kris]

Scof like to use this scale.It is very important scale in his style of playing.