Practicing Coltrane blues changes.

[augusjazz]

Hi guys, I share this with you to advise and comment on as it is the use of "Coltrane changes" in a blues,
Record a few choruses of sample.

YouTube Video

[langerz]

Really nice and tasty! thanks for sharing

[Spirit59]

Maybe I'm just tired but that sounded like a straight blues to me. Heard a few tensions on the windup into the IV7 chord, but I sure didn't hear any Trane changes....

[FatJeff]

I am having a hard time hearing the Coltrane changes in there, too. This is something you are trying to play on top of the regular blues playalong?

[Spirit59]

I'm really thinking that he posted the wrong video....because the backing is just an Aebersold blues track and he's not superimposing trane changes, so...

[augusjazz]

I see that I have not explained well.
In this video I am testing using a cycle Coltrane blues, I use this when the harmony changes from I to IV.
This is to play short phrases that pass through Bb-DE while sounding chords are Bb7 and EB7 (the chord of resolution).
It's using harmony Coltrane cycle where the cycle is not used as seciuencia harmonica.
I hope now I have said it better.
Thank you very much for your time.

[Spirit59]

Originally Posted by augusjazz

This is to play short phrases that pass through Bb-DE while sounding chords are Bb7 and EB7 (the chord of resolution).

Did you mean Bb to Db? If so, I can understand what you mean. However, I think that only using that much of the cycle will not convey the sound of Trane changes - all you're getting is the sound of the tonic moving up a minor 3rd - a sound that we're all used to hearing when we use our h/w diminished moves while we're en route to the IV7, so what I'm saying is: You should use more of the cycle (start it earlier?).

I more typically see the cycle start on the 9th bar of a 12 bar blues, starting right after the ii7 chord, like:

Cm7 Db7 | Gbmaj7 A7 | Dmaj7 G7 | C7 F7


Here's starting from the very beginning, moving to the IV7:

| Bb7 Db7 | Gb7 A7 | D7 F7 | Fm7 Bb7 |

Hope this helps.