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Old 01-24-2012, 05:45 PM
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Help Bebop, Cry Me A River and Gone But Not Forgotten licks.

I think I understand the use of the 'Bebop lick',...I use it over a ii-V progression and recognize that it starts with the root of the V. The 'Gone But Not Forgotten' lick (GBNF) and the 'Cry Me a River' lick (CMAR) are a bit more ambiguous for me. As I understand them they can be used over certain chords, as an example if the lick is in the key of C, the licks typically start on the note D, and end on C. Jerry Coker says they can be used over the chords: Cm7, A7b5, F7, B7(#9,#5) and Eb maj#5. Why do they work over these chords? Are they ever used over chord changes or are they 'typically' used over static chords. Thanks !! BTW..I'm a new memeber, but having been reading the forum for a while.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:54 PM
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Should this be in the the 'theory' section?????
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Old 01-28-2012, 08:22 PM
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Found this on 'Sax on the Web' forum, Re: CMAR lick:
07-12-2007, 10:24 AM
It's a good lick that can also create leading tone melodies using extensions of the chord... For example ...

B7 going to an Em (or E major ... doesn't really matter)

Over the B7, you could play D, C, G, Eb, D, C and resolve on a B when you get to the E chord. #9, b9, b13 all in one lick. Seventh mode of your ascending melodic minor is a good way to think of which "cry me a river" lick to use on the spot. (i.e. B is the seventh degree of C "jazz melodic minor," where jazz melodic minor is the ascending "normal" melodic minor scale.)
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Old 01-28-2012, 08:24 PM
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IBID (above):

It's really hard to choose just one lick, but I like the "Cry Me A River" lick, so called because it's the first phrase of that old standard. From high to low the notes are D, C, G, Eb, D, C. Obvious uses are over a Cm7 or Cm9, but can also be used in variety of other spots. Do some searches, there's a good discussion here somewhere.):
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