Book Users Discussion Group: "Joe Elliott: Introduction to Jazz Guitar Soloing"

[frankiemachine]

I missed this too. Thanks to John, and also to Moonray for drawing attention to it.

[John Graham]

Originally Posted by Moonray

I'd like to thank John Graham for his generous [and meticulous]notes from his
studies with Joe Elliot at MI.
Not to mention the "Scott Henderson files" from classes also attended at MI.

Wow!.....You did a great job of rendering down these two gentlemen's approaches.


Not having seen Joe Elliot's book, never the less I feel I've got a pretty
clear handle on what he's laying down.
I could only recommend that participants in this discussion read through
John Graham's offerings. Many of your questions may be answered there.
[Depending on your current understanding ]

BTW.....The material contained in Scott Henderson's views on the "BUSINESS" end of the music biz[including very down to earth, no BS stuff on "tone", gear etc] is absolutely forehead-smackingly obvious but brilliant!
Only one who has been there- done that could have reached these conclusions.
Would-be pros.....read this!
Thanks again John for your sterling efforts and generosity.
I just felt that your seemingly simple looking post may have been overlooked.

David Simmonds took Joe Elliot’s (and Scott Henderson’s) class at GIT and generously posted his class notes. I’m studying and enjoying Elliot’s book, stumbled upon the Simmonds’ Web page, and merely posted a link to it. Thank you David Simmonds, Joe Elliot, and Scott Henderson.

[Moonray]

Credit where credit's due!

Thanks either way John.
MJP

[cubistguitar]

I love the book. I haven't mastered any of it really, put it to the side for a little while. Good excuse to pull it out and get back on the horse.

This book was really getting me into playing arpeggios in different positions than i usually do, great for my rock brain that wants to learn everything root down.

[bobsguitars09]

Can the three note per string scale shapes be applied to this book?

[bobsguitars09]

Originally Posted by Moonray

I'd like to thank John Graham for his generous [and meticulous]notes from his
studies with Joe Elliot at MI.
Not to mention the "Scott Henderson files" from classes also attended at MI.

Wow!.....You did a great job of rendering down these two gentlemen's approaches.


Not having seen Joe Elliot's book, never the less I feel I've got a pretty
clear handle on what he's laying down.
I could only recommend that participants in this discussion read through
John Graham's offerings. Many of your questions may be answered there.
[Depending on your current understanding ]

BTW.....The material contained in Scott Henderson's views on the "BUSINESS" end of the music biz[including very down to earth, no BS stuff on "tone", gear etc] is absolutely forehead-smackingly obvious but brilliant!
Only one who has been there- done that could have reached these conclusions.
Would-be pros.....read this!
Thanks again John for your sterling efforts and generosity.
I just felt that your seemingly simple looking post may have been overlooked.

where can we find this info?

[Helgo]

Hi bobsguitars09,

Post #14 in this thread.

You'll see why it is easily overlooked.

(Moonray)

Cheers,
H.

[Helgo]

...oh, and about the three-note-per-string scale shapes:

Yes, they can be applied. However, to do so, you should be abled to organize the arpeggios of the scale yourself (or ask the guys on the forum for help...I wouldn´t mind helping you out there).

The book, for me, has these basic tools:
- Presenting Finger Positions
- Organizing Arpeggios in these positions
- the "connecting game" (i.e. playing over changes)
- Playing in "Common situations" (i.e. II-V-Is in major, minor, long, short, etc...)
- ....(and some more advanced stuff...)

The first two won´t be a big help for you if you use the three-note-per-string scale shapes. That´s where you´ll have to do the work yourself...

I am currently shifting from CAGED (which is used in the book) to three-note-per-string scale shapes, so I am kind of in the same boat.


Let me know what you decide...

Cheers,
H.

[Nuff Said]

I was interested in the post, so I got a copy of the book.

I've been playing for many,many years, so I already know the fretboard and each mode's arpp, so I've got to "The Connecting Game" chapter 5 very quickly.

I think "The Connecting Game" is a great way to learn to play the changes to a song. Its similar to the approach called "playing the chord tones".

Thanks for the interesting post, I'll get back to the book.

Nuff