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Old 11-16-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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Default Emily Remler

Hi i have been listening to some of the emily remler lessons of the brilliant remembering emily site.On one of the lessons she is saying how she only looks at dominant chords as two categories,resolving and non resolving.If it resolves she uses melodic minor up a half step.If it does not resolve she uses melodic minor up a fifth now i was allready familiar with this process and use it myself.But my question is do you guys think she would still have applied this if she encountered a domb9 chord or a dom#7.If i saw a domb9 chord i would normally think half/whole diminished.So have you guys got any insight or thoughts on this technique.Oh yeagh i forgot to say ,with the dom#7 i would probably go wholetone,now i know my method works and sounds ok but emilys method is even simpler.I know someone is oing to tell me just to try it,and normally i would but i think i might get some complaints from the people in th hospital beds in my ward if i suddenly start playing scales all day long.Peace.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:30 AM
 
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Hi gingerjazz.

I donīt know Remlerīs playing all that well but I imagine that she might have just simplified things for teachingīs sake when she said this:

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If it resolves she uses melodic minor up a half step.If it does not resolve she uses melodic minor up a fifth
Great jazz players usually have a more facetted vocabulary of concepts.

If you have all those concepts down I think you should feel free to use them to your liking.

I am nowhere near that, still working on the majorscale with a little altered scale here and there thrown in


Get well soon!

Cheers,
H.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:50 AM
 
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I think that was basically ER's approach, and definitely one of the main points she wanted to get across in her educational videos. However if you do listen to all the lessons on the Remembering Emily website (and this is an absolute goldmine IMO!) you do learn that there are exceptions to the "rule" - for example in the bridge for rhythm changes, also in blues, plus she does somewhere mention that she is getting into the half-whole diminished for flat 9 dominants. Also I'm sure she talks about the whole-tone scale for some dominant chords as well, plus I think she even says at one point that she is not quite as anti the plain old mixolydian scale as she used to be!

What a fabulous musician she was though...
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:05 AM
 
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she only looks at dominant chords as two categories,resolving and non resolving. If it resolves she uses melodic minor up a half step.If it does not resolve she uses melodic minor up a fifth
Emily was a great player who met a sad end, I spend years learning good stuff her hot licks videos, but remember the videos are over 20 years old and as always ideas move on.

I like Mixolydian b2 over Domb9 chords, its the fifth mode of the Harmonic minor scale.

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:23 AM
 
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Thanks for the replies guys.Emily is everything i want from a jazz guitar player i am definitely drawn towards the more melodic players,what a loss to the music world when she died.Please forgive me if i suddenly stop posting but i am in haospital at the moment on a borrowed laptop which i will have to give back soon.Peace.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:43 AM
 
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Hope you're not too long in there ginger! No probs, and cheers for steering my thoughts back to Emily Remler, I really must get working from those lessons again. Personally I rank her as one of my favourite 3 players, along with Wes Montgomery and Barney Kessel - one of those musicians that appear very seldom, but everything she did just somehow sounds so right. A rare talent indeed.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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emily is a favorite of mine, and i too have worked on the videos-
i think i have all but 1 or 2 of her CDs-and they are getting harder to find and much pricier-'i really like, too, the tribute CDs -they are amazing to any jazz guitar fan-great stuff too

i think what is particualry great about ER in her instruction is that she simplifies things so well-you can apply what she teaches without a great deal of jazz knowledge-very encouraging for the beginner -that is the key -a great teacher can take something complex and simplify it

didnt know about the site-thanks -
i think ill be spending a lot of time there now

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Old 11-17-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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Good morning, gingerjazz. If you are not familiar with this site, you might like to give a look; loots of transcriptions, videos, lessons, etc.

Remembering the life and music of legendary jazz guitarist Emily Remler
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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Good morning, gingerjazz. If you are not familiar with this site, you might like to give a look; loots of transcriptions, videos, lessons, etc.

Remembering the life and music of legendary jazz guitarist Emily Remler
Actually I think that is the very site that gingerjazz is referring to in the original post. But no harm in putting a link up anyway - it is a terrific site and a great resource for the reasons you state!
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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oops, I am the Dummy Of The Day yet again.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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Jseaberry,thanks but yes i an familiar with that site,and if i remember correctly Meggy was the one who put me on to it first,thanks again meggy.When you listen to those lessons every now and again you can hear her getting excited with her overwhelming passion for the music,and thats in a lesson i can only imagine what she must have been like when playing live,did anyone here ever see her play live and if so wouldnt it be great if they could tell us all about the experience.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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Love her version of summertime...play it all the time

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