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[frogtime]

hi i found something


for min7 chords , since every extension is possible for minor chords and it sounds cool and crowd, i discovered some ideas.

for example take Am7

i use (dm7) - G7 - Cmaj7 (relative major) in it. and it perfectly goes. and django uses it a lot.

(this backcycling approach is useful during the chord as much as behind the measure)

what i wonder is:

for example as you know we can superimpose other diatonic minor chords for Am7 (such as Em7 Dm7). is it okay to use B7 - Em7, or A7-Dm7 resolutions before we go to main chord tones of am7 ?

furthermore, by this approach i think we can put V7s and even ii s behind every scale degree of Am7, resulting the whole phrase by Am7 chord tones.

do you agree me?


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another question. this one is about v7 chords. what is your advices to get v7 solos richer?

i use Ab7 (or m7) - G7 mixtures in G7 situation. not much thing. i want to do better. of course effective use of altered scale is important. but im not thinking in scales. all i think when i improvising is the chord im in. and possible hidden reharmonization ideas.

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another question. everywhere i see reharmonization examples of for example;

original chords

Cmaj7 - Fmaj7 --...

II v - ii v / f

but is sounds to me ridicilous. why?

thanks

[JakeAcci]

Originally Posted by frogtime

hi i found something


for min7 chords , since every extension is possible for minor chords and it sounds cool and crowd, i discovered some ideas.

for example take Am7

i use (dm7) - G7 - Cmaj7 (relative major) in it. and it perfectly goes. and django uses it a lot.

(this backcycling approach is useful during the chord as much as behind the measure)

what i wonder is:

for example as you know we can superimpose other diatonic minor chords for Am7 (such as Em7 Dm7). is it okay to use B7 - Em7, or A7-Dm7 resolutions before we go to main chord tones of am7 ?

furthermore, by this approach i think we can put V7s and even ii s behind every scale degree of Am7, resulting the whole phrase by Am7 chord tones.

do you agree me?

Well, why not just record yourself experimenting with the approach, listen back and see how it sounds? That seems to make a lot more sense to me then asking others whether it's ok to do this or try it.

But personally, yes, I'm a big fan of implying other chord progressions over a single chord...whether a certain sequence works or not is contextual.

[frogtime]

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[jmstritt]

You can backcycle as much as you want and imply as much harmony as you wish.

I am assuming that you are talking about a static A minor vamp?

There are a couple ways you can go...

Dmin7 G7 Cmaj7 Amin7

Emin7 Amin7 Dmin7 G7 Cmaj7 Amin7

Bmin7b5 E7b9 Amin7 Dmin7 G7 Bmin7 E7 Amin7

Bmin7b5 E7b9 Amin7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 F#7 Bmaj7 D7 Gmaj7 Bmi7b5 E7b9 Amin7

It just depends how outside you want to make it and how far you want to stretch the envelope. You can use the Amin7 as your i in the key of Aminor, and do a ii V i to that (Bmin7b5, E7b9, Amin7). Or you can make it the ii in the key of G and cycle back to A minor( Amin7, D7, Gmaj7, Cmaj7, Bmin7b5, E7, Amin7) The last example I put, the A minor started off as the i of A Minor and then changes to the ii of G major and I added Trane changes around it.

Really you are only limited to your imagination and what you think sounds good and what the group your are playing with can follow you on.

[frogtime]

thanks man im really happy. for 5 years im mentally into harmony but neither books nor thoughts could do what the ears did. seemingly min7 chords were the most boring chords to me. but everything had changed today.

in minor vamps its really cool but, for major it is not. why? or its an issue of ear problemof me . ( i dont have a loop pedal and do not use biab or sth).

for example if i play e7 over Cmaj7 and going for Am7 it is destroying the major quality. e7 is has a really strong sense. i think resoluting to em7 is nicer than am7. b7 e- or f#- b7 bb7 to c etc.. despite, major is a little bit different i think. not to be free very much. what you think im a false?