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01-24-2011, 03:16 PM
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| | Judge my playing please :D Hey guys. I would appreciate if you guys would tell me what i could do better in my playing. SAY ANYTHING! I dont have a teacher right now and i would like to know what you think i should be working on. Dont need you to rate it or anything, just tell what you likes and what you didnt like i would appreciate it YouTube - Synth Funk backing track in E Improvisation | 
01-24-2011, 03:27 PM
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| | I liked your playing.
I recommend developing your solos more, so that it is building the whole time. Don't start at the top or close to it; because you'll have no where to go.
Your little lick at :47 was pretty hot, it was nice and outside sounding, what were you using for that?
I'd recommend using more space too, it can be just as effective, if not more so, than playing notes.
And finally i'd like to add that it was very guthrie govan-esque phrasing. | 
01-24-2011, 04:06 PM
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| | Great fusion-like licks & sound. That said, I would use more syncopation during my solo, throw some chords or at least chord fragments in there, & exploit the chord changes, even if just for a second. There's a move from an E to a G in there, I believe, around :50. | 
01-24-2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jeppelavsen ...i would like to know what you think i should be working on... | Good evening, jeppelavsen...
Sounds fine to me, your technique is quite polished and fluid. All I would suggest would be to listen to (and 'rip'...) licks from wider sources. There were a couple of Jerry Garcia moments in there; that's perhaps a decent source of inspiration for you (especially the early 'acid days' with Grateful Dead...)? Double stops and arpeggios would broaden it out some, too. Very enjoyable, anyway (but a bit 'short'  ..?).
Thanks for posting, hope this helps.
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01-25-2011, 06:18 PM
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| | When you solo on a groove... Try and have a shape for your solo... can be as simple as range, start low, work your way up to upper register and relax . I like to play between melodic grooves, two ideas with same feel or rhythm, again can be as simple as between two note, or two long phrases. Try and not stay in same neck area... unless your able to play different ideas... most guitar players let what they can play on the neck be their choice of what to play... your guitar playing you... You sound great, have some chops and sound like your having fun... Oh yea try and keep some balance with your phrasing... stay in some even number of bars pattern. You don't have to play all the time... the shape or rhythmic pattern stays implied.... best Reg | 
01-25-2011, 10:26 PM
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| | Very nice playing!
One suggestion: Until you got pretty close to the end of the solo, you seemed to be hanging out about 80% of the time on the B and E strings. This can lead to a somewhat tinny sound after a while.
Have you thought about transposing a bunch of your excellent licks to the A, D, G and B strings? Even re-stating an idea that you've just played in the higher register in a lower register creates that "call-and-response" feeling that lends a sense of structure and coherence to a solo.
I'd love to hear you play the same solo, but this time incorporating this idea of varying the register a bit more! | 
01-26-2011, 01:27 AM
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| | Wow! this is just was i was hoping for. You guys are great, and you have so many different suggestions. To sum up, your suggestions are:
Playing less
Make sbetter "storyline"
Throw in some chords or double stops
Throw in arpeggios
Get out of the primary position
Learn licks an octave lower
This is great and gives me alot to work on.
@ musicjohnny, the scales i use to play outside would be melodic minor or the 8 tone scale (half-whole)
@ dad335 I havent heard Jerri Garcia yet, but will definately check him out if you think Im gonna like his style of playing
Thanks alot! | 
01-26-2011, 02:37 AM
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| | Good improvisation !
You can increase the outside notes all along your improvisation.
You can add more spaces between your phrases for managing some little things like : chords or double stops, few bass notes, blanks,... | 
01-28-2011, 10:00 PM
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| | You have heard Garcia yet brother??!?! Whaaaa... egypt is crumbling right now(seriously). You were melting serious face.
dig this video a taste of some earlier garica YouTube - Grateful Dead - Clementine (February 2, 1968)
Keep up the good work buddy!
cheers! | 
01-29-2011, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by YardbirdBopper You have heard Garcia yet brother?... | Good evening, YardbirdBopper...
Garcia? Right up there at the top, imho. I have them all; not much to skip over (the whole band, not just the maestro...). I've been trying for years to get at least something of that flow (perhaps in another life...  ).
Yardbirds, huh That wouldn't be the 'Roger the Engineer' Yardbirds, by any chance? One of the first disks I ever heard; set me off on a (continuing...) path, musically. I had a Burns Bison at one time, inspired by Beck. Happy days... 
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01-29-2011, 10:51 AM
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| | Hi Dad, love your sound, and those micro bends in there also - you really do have a happening style going there! I guess I don't have too much to add, but cheers for posting your vid - although you have a somewhat different style to me (and can do a few things I can't!), I think I do have a few of the same issues as you, so it's bringing up some useful pointers.
But good stuff! - I love the way you haven't gone for that kind of super smoothed-out, overdrive on max, fusion sound that a lot of people use. Your sound has texture and character is there which I find more expressive. | 
01-29-2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Meggy Hi Dad, love your sound... | Good evening, Meggy...
I'd be flattered, but credit must be given to the OP for the video (jeppelavsen...); I agree wholeheartedly with your remarks, however. If only you could hear me play..! 
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01-29-2011, 01:51 PM
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| | I'm impressed! Where I am at the moment (at a lower level than you) I couldn't put my finger on anything to improve!  | 
01-29-2011, 05:53 PM
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| | Another thing occurred to me. Are you familiar with Guthrie Govan? He's a brilliant, virtuoso player.
There's quite a lot on YouTube by Guthrie that, given the style of the solo that you laid down, might be of interest to you, including: YouTube - Guthrie Govan playing to Robben Ford style track YouTube - Guthrie Govan-Funky Blues YouTube - Guthrie Govan playing to Larry Carlton style track
And if you want to hear something that's truly hair-raising, check out: YouTube - Guthrie Govan - Bullet Blues
If you go to Guitar Jam Tracks And Guitar Backing Jam Tracks To Download - JamTrackCentral, you can purchase the video, mp3, pdf of the tab and notation, and overview notes for most if not all of these solos. | 
01-29-2011, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dad3353 Good evening, YardbirdBopper...
Garcia? Right up there at the top, imho. I have them all; not much to skip over (the whole band, not just the maestro...). I've been trying for years to get at least something of that flow (perhaps in another life...  ).
Yardbirds, huh That wouldn't be the 'Roger the Engineer' Yardbirds, by any chance? One of the first disks I ever heard; set me off on a (continuing...) path, musically. I had a Burns Bison at one time, inspired by Beck. Happy days...  | I had meant to say "you HAVEN'T heard GARICA"! (thesin) but yes garcia is godish status.
but Daddy! Yardbird is from Yardbird Suite by Parker one of the best tunes out there I'd say.
But hey guys if we are judging peoples playing... give me a go! I am feeling a bit stuck in a rut. feeling too mechanical in my playing. What suggestions to do you have on my take on Yardbird Suite The Clifford House 2010 op Myspace Music ? Gratis gestreamde MP3?s, foto?s en Videoclips
only tune on the page! | 
01-29-2011, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by YardbirdBopper ...hey guys if we are judging peoples playing... give me a go!... | Good evening, YardbirdBopper...
Judging, No way, that would be way too presumptuous..! Just (helpful..?) comments, really.
A threesome is a hard act to get right; all 3 have to be darned good to make it complete and balanced. You're not at all bad, it works pretty well.
Suggestions? For yourself, I would try to incorporate a bit more chordal playing, especially from the outset, and start the solo lines a bit later on. If you can manage a kind of chord/melody, privileging the melody perhaps, I think it would 'fill out' more; you then get some space when you're soloing. The lines themselves are fine, but you could perhaps try to 'shift' the rhythm a bit (not always 'on the beat', but around it, if that makes sense to you...). The double stops brought some 3D relief; more could be done with similar techniques (octaves, arp chords, rakes etc...).
Bass? Fine; I would have liked a bit more 'dynamics' and syncopation, but that's nit-picking. Bass solos are always risky; he pulls it off, and your 'comping' helps.
Discrete drumming, generally, nicely done except for the (imho...) incessant kick. The 'drive' is already coming from the bass, ride and hats, so I would use much more sparingly the kick for accentuating, rather than 'pulse'.
Well, you asked for it..! No, in general, I would love to be able to play as well as that myself, and it sounds like you're all having great fun putting it down. Isn't that the main thing? Keep it up, you're (all...) doing swell...
Hope this helps...
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01-29-2011, 09:48 PM
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| | Jerry is one of my all-time favorite players, as you might guess from my screen-name. He was constantly pushing the boundaries of sonic exploration. I wouldn't say he was a jazz guitarist but instead he drew from a broad palette. Anything that struck his fancy he would try to encorporate.
As far as official releases go, two of my favorites are Dozin At The Nick & Without A Net, both later recordings w/keyboardist Brent Mydland. Of all the keyboard players they had (& the Dead went through a lot of them) I think Brent was the only one that really provided some conversation for Jerry to participate in. Maybe the only musician to do that in the history of the band. But that's just my opinion & a whole other topic.
The Dead were & still are the most recorded band in history, so you can imagine there's a lot of bad stuff out there: poor recordings & off nights. So looking for the nuggets can be daunting. Once you get used to the warts in bootleg performances you can begin to dig them. | 
01-31-2011, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dad3353 Good evening, Meggy...
I'd be flattered, but credit must be given to the OP for the video (jeppelavsen...); I agree wholeheartedly with your remarks, however. If only you could hear me play..!  | Oh how embarassing  - well I guess a well done to the OP! My comments were sincerely meant, if wrongly aimed, apologies if you read this. And I'm sure your playing is pretty good too Dad (he said winningly!  ), and apologies to your good self too. I'm off to find a rock to crawl under...  | 
02-01-2011, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Reg When you solo on a groove... Try and have a shape for your solo... can be as simple as range, start low, work your way up to upper register and relax . I like to play between melodic grooves, two ideas with same feel or rhythm, again can be as simple as between two note, or two long phrases. Try and not stay in same neck area... unless your able to play different ideas... most guitar players let what they can play on the neck be their choice of what to play... your guitar playing you... You sound great, have some chops and sound like your having fun... Oh yea try and keep some balance with your phrasing... stay in some even number of bars pattern. You don't have to play all the time... the shape or rhythmic pattern stays implied.... best Reg | +1 Reg, solid advice for everyone right there...
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02-07-2011, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jeppelavsen Wow! this is just was i was hoping for. You guys are great, and you have so many different suggestions. To sum up, your suggestions are:
Playing less
Make sbetter "storyline"
Throw in some chords or double stops
Throw in arpeggios
Get out of the primary position
Learn licks an octave lower
This is great and gives me alot to work on.
@ musicjohnny, the scales i use to play outside would be melodic minor or the 8 tone scale (half-whole)
@ dad335 I havent heard Jerri Garcia yet, but will definately check him out if you think Im gonna like his style of playing
Thanks alot! | Yeah man, nice playing. Are you gonna make us all sick by telling us you're 5 years old?!
As you say, use a little more space, particularly at the beginning of the solo, so as you build it you can play more.
With the storyline part, use repetition of short phrases, developing them each time, like a musical paragraph.
Yes get more comfortable on the rest of the neck. It will give you more to work with.
I wouldn't worry too much about putting in this or that technique. Make scales, triads and arpeggioes part of your regular practice and they will appear naturally and smoothly.
Oh and definitely check Scott Henderson out. Particularly Tribal Tech albums like Nomad and Tribal Tech.
Nice job 
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