Perfect Jazz guitar?

[mr. beaumont]

always the neck, with the tone rolled off about halfway.

[bfloyd6969]

Thanks

[fast eddy]

Originally Posted by jaxson50

Lester,
I know a local collector of Harmonys and Stellas and Silvertons etc., he also has a shop, the point is he has a warehouse full of stuff, parts etc. and ton's of old US tube amps from the 40's 50's and 60's. So if you need parts let me know I'll send you his e-mail address.
Jim AKA Jaxson50

Wow! Can you send it to me too, please. I'm waiting on a Fender Blues Junior tweed. Bought it off e-bay but had to get a friend to buy it as I live in Thailand and they wouldn't sell it out of the US. My friend has just had it shipped to Canada where a friend of mine will be visiting his brother next week and will bring it back on the plane with him. really looking forward to hearing jazz on this little amp.

[Paul Jerome]

Check out PEERLESS...Korean made from a company that used to make all the guitars for the big guys now started on their own in Korea....Cremona is top of the line...They are really beautifully made . Along the lines of a Benedetto but far less expensive. I also have an Epiphone and they seriously sound like a jazz guitar if you add the heavier strings and the heavier pick...It really has more to do with the PLAYER not the guitar.After you realize that, you won't care so much...great guitars make great players sound great and help crappy players emphasize all their shortcomings.BUT , a great guitar gives the new player incentive to play better.

[habbottl5]

Thanks for information!!!
I was really searching this type of information in last few days.
This information will give me lot of help in near future.
Thanks a lot

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[X-500]

GUILDS, GUILDS, GUILDS!

Of course I'm partial to Guilds because I own four, but they are remarkably well made American made guitars that are undervalued (especially compared to Gibson's prices) - not to mention the sound is what you would expect out of a jazz box. Especially the X-500 and the X-700. The X-500 sounding closer to a ES-175. The X-700 has a more resonant/woody souind. The X-170 resists feedback due to the soundpost applied by Guild under the bridge (inside).

All prices are for used specimens as Fender shut down Guild electric hollowbody production a few years after moving the hollowbody production to Corona, CA. The suggestions below are laminated and the X-700 is of a carved top construction. Guild made their premier carved top archtop, the Artist Award, but I cant comment on it since I don't own one - yet . Other archtops were made by Guild too: Starfires I, II, III, IV, V. And other X and CE series that were made pre-Westerly (Hoboken, NJ). They would make fine jazz sounding guitars as well, though again, I cant comment since I haven't playe/own them.

They still make Guild archtops in their custom shop however (quite expensive though).

Here are some great Guild jazz box examples (all have 24 3/4 scale necks) -
X-150D Savoy: Guild X150D Savoy - Westerly Guild Guitars
$900 - $1,500

X-170 Manhattan: Guild X170 Manhattan - Westerly Guild Guitars
$1,200 - $1,500

X-500 Paladin: Guild X500 Paladin - Westerly Guild Guitars
$1,900 - $2,500

X-700 Stuart: Guild X700 Stuart - Westerly Guild Guitars
$ 2,500 +


A couple of my examples:

_______MY X-170 ______________MY X-500_______

[gary mitchell]

It would take alot to make me give up my all mahogany Godin LG after taking out the hot seymour duncan SP3 90s and Loading it with a pair of very early 60 model Gibson P90s. I love that guitar I mean love it. I sold one of my ES335 gibson to a dude in Austin he makes a living playing Jazz. He played my Godin and wanted it more then the gibson and I wouldnt sale it. Just couldnt let it go. I just couldnt imagine not playing it. It pleases me.

[randyc]

Originally Posted by X-500

GUILDS, GUILDS, GUILDS!

LOL ! Yeah, I like them too. Here's a Rhode Island made SF III that I bought new some years back. It has a sweet sound, feels nice and looks very sharp !

I had reservations about the cast aluminum bridge when I first obtained the guitar - even bought an ebony bridge to replace it, but I haven't done so fifteen years later, even though it would take only two minutes.

For those who are not familiar with Guilds, this is a hollow archtop, not a semi-hollow like a Gibson ES-135/137 ... never had feedback problems.




cheers

[X-500]

Originally Posted by randyc

LOL ! Yeah, I like them too. Here's a Rhode Island made SF III that I bought new some years back.

Hi Randy,

Sweet looking Starfire! Is that Tennesee orange? Deserves a Homer drool:

[randyc]

Originally Posted by X-500

Hi Randy,

Sweet looking Starfire! Is that Tennesee orange? Deserves a Homer drool:

That is REALLY cute ! I don't know what color Tennessee Orange might be, unless it's one of those Gretsch colors. My SF is just natural tiger maple, it's really an eye catcher under good lighting. It sounds very sweet, too, not like a Gibson at all, just has it's own voice. Well, you know that of course, with your fine collection of Guilds

cheers and thanks for the compliment

[bob32069]

Wholeheartedly agree with the Guilds!

I have a Westerly SFIV and X-170. The x-170 gets a great jazz sound through my '73 Princeton Reverb.

[randyc]

Originally Posted by bob32069

Wholeheartedly agree with the Guilds!

I have a Westerly SFIV and X-170. The x-170 gets a great jazz sound through my '73 Princeton Reverb.

Nice !!! It's great to see these other beautiful Guilds, I have never encountered another Guild player in person.

I've also never played a Stuart, like X-500's, but I understand that they are very special - why they aren't priced to run with the Gibsons is a mystery.

I bought (new) my SF-III about fifteen years ago for around $1000 US and bought a Gibson ES-135 three years or so later for the same price, also new. But the Guild is several times the value of the Gibson IMO.

It's a full hollow body with the consequent richness of tone that the semi-hollow Gibson lacks. It has full binding (the Gibson has no neck binding) and FWIW, it has the Bigsby tailpiece. (I use it in the same manner that a vocalist uses a trailing vibrato. It's very effective for ballads ...)

As X-500 said, VERY under-rated guitars, superb value for $. I have a number of Gibsons too, and I enjoy them immensely but the Guild has a very distinct sound, very sweet.

cheers

[ajaypea]

So far it appears that nobody has mentioned the great, semi-hollow Yamaha SA2000S . This is similar to a Gibson 335, but with the smaller horns seen also on John Scofield's guitar made by Ibanez, and coil taps on the humbucker pick-ups. The Yamaha is a superbly made guitar - at the top of their range. I bought mine in 1991 after sampling one at a trade show in London when ordering guitars for a music shop owning friend. It has the lowest and cleanest action that I've ever played, with a perfect neck - check out the reviews on Harmony Central, with lots of USA guitarists saying this guitar wipes the floor with a Gibson. Mine's a beautiful sunburst, with gold hardware. In the UK some excellent and affordable jazz guitars are on sale under the Peerless brand name. Having praised the Yamaha, my favourite guitar for all styles, including jazz, is my USA Fender Statocaster Deluxe, with the S1 switching system allowing me to find a really wide range of tones.

[guavajelly]

Although I love my Eastman 905 in most situations a tele suits me just fine- and has the versatility to go for more pointed rhythm sounds and crunch also.
I had one of my teles rewired lately for a jerry donahue wiring with a 5 way switch, which in addition to the traditional tele positions give me a start quack sound and a setting that sound more like a humbucker. while the normal tele neck sound is a fine and transparent jazz tone which never gets muddy, the new setting gives a more midrange-powefull sound thus suited for some lines that need a little more punch. all this achieved by a switch and a few resistors.

[jazzbender]

Originally Posted by ajaypea

So far it appears that nobody has mentioned the great, semi-hollow Yamaha SA2000S

Those are hard to find, aren't they? Is the SA2200 the latest iteration of the 2000?

My G&L strat with the S1 has that wide range you mention. It is a fine axe for all styles.

[vikinin]

does anyone have insight of the TOKAI AFA 180 rendition of the Gibbo ES 175?
i am considering buying one pretty soon.
thanks
patrick

[juuso1]

Vikinin: Why you don´t buy insted a vintage ibanez FA-100? It beets bouth Tokai or gibbo 175. It souds jazzy and I think you can save some bugs.
juho
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[vikinin]

Hi there
my gtr dealer currently stocks the follwing ES175 copies (second hand) :
-Ibanez AF100
-Heritage H575
-Antoria ES175.
I am simply craving for a 175 type gtr and I am a bit confused over the choice offered, givne that I also have a Tokai UFA 180 in sight.
Any comments on these models that would help me make a decision???
surprisingly enough, the Ibanez is the most expensive of the lot.
rgds
patrick

[Squint]

My "perfect" jazz guitar is these 3 Washburns and 2 D'Aquistos. If I had to choose just one, I couldn't. I would have to have one electric and one acoustic. Even an acoustic D'Aquisto with a floating pup, which is PURE tone, just isn't as versatile as the Washburn J-9 on the left and I tend to get bored with limited tone when playing live, so if I had to choose just one, it would all depend on what I needed it for. So, I guess the "perfect" guitar greatly depends on what you want to do with it. What do y'all think?

[Squint]

Originally Posted by jaxson50

Whats Bobby playing in this video?
YouTube - Jazz Guitar Robert Conti 8 String Guitar
It has too many strings!!!!

Hofner 8 string Jazzica I think... sweeeeet!

[juuso1]

hi vikinin,
Tryed to answer, but i was logged out. Ibanez AF-100 has difrerent cutaway than ES 175, but FA-100 is a copy of gibbon, but not a "lawsuit", couse hedstock is different. Try to get one, you will not be disapointed.

Tokai is a japanise brand, guite expencive and quality stuff, no experience. It is the same with Antoria, it is the same factory than Ibanez used, but the brand was to UK markets

Heritage L-5 modell I have seen to be played, and it was loud using mesa boogie studioamp. No experience about your H575. Harmony´s opinions were from here to there.
Regards
juuso1
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P.S. You Squint have very many nice guitars. I agree you, that different guitars are for different places to play...
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[Squint]

Just had to put my Washburn props out there.

Goes to show, good guitars are where ever you find them...

[habbottl5]

Band One - The Greats

Drums - Max Roach or Art Blakey
Bass - Charles Mingus
Guitar - Django Reinhardt
Keys - Thelonious Monk
Sax - Coltrane or Charlie Parker
Trombone - J.J. Johnson
Trumpet - Clifford Brown or Freddy Hubbard


Band 2 - The Current Greats

Drums - Denis Chambers or Brian Blade
Bass - Dave Holland or Victor Wooten
Keys - Brad Mehldau
Guitar - Kevin Eubanks or John Maclaughlin
Trombone - Robin Eubanks .
Sax - Chris Potter or Geri Bergonzi
Trumpet - Roy Hardgrove or John Swana.

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[Meggy]

Originally Posted by Squint

My "perfect" jazz guitar is these 3 Washburns and 2 D'Aquistos. If I had to choose just one, I couldn't. I would have to have one electric and one acoustic. Even an acoustic D'Aquisto with a floating pup, which is PURE tone, just isn't as versatile as the Washburn J-9 on the left and I tend to get bored with limited tone when playing live, so if I had to choose just one, it would all depend on what I needed it for. So, I guess the "perfect" guitar greatly depends on what you want to do with it. What do y'all think?

Cheers for posting this picture, I do enjoy looking at nice guitars! I really like the styling on the J9 with the blond finish and small pickguard, and interesting to hear that it is also versatile as a player. But those twin D'Aquistos look like something ELSE to me! I envy you!

[Squint]

Ta Meggy!
I have since sold the J6 in the middle. (Wish I hadn't now...) But the blond J9 sounds even deeper than the J6. It's a Japanese made prototype that has been rewired with some excellent pups that I have no idea who made. The J9 on the right is Korean and has a high end Bigsby and GFS pups that really swing. One of the D'Aquistos has a floating Bartolini pup that I'm still working with dialing in the tone. Jimmy's design is so strong that his quest to make a true hybrid flattop/archtop still shines even in these Aria reproductions. Oh, and the pickguards on the J9's were custom made by yours truly! The ebony guard on the "jazzy" blond just felt right. I would love to have ebony fretboards, but the rosewood is so dark and smooth, it's really close. Next time you see a J9 on eBay, check the serial number and if it starts with an "S", it's a Samick and probably Korean. Snatch it up for around $300 and put a few bucks into it and you will have a FINE guitar for very little cash. You can even experiment with different tailpieces. Some have poo-pooed the big "W" on the blond, but it is truly the best sounding tail for the tone I wanted. Sorry to rant, but I've put a lot of time and effort into these babies and after thirty-plus years of playing and recording, I am fortunate enough to finally have the "paintboxes" I've always wanted to create with. These are proof that you don't have to pay a lot of money to have a lot of guitar.

[Rabitstring]

Perfect Groove guitar. In my opinion very smart and daring idea
REK - custom electric guitars

[royswan]

Yes, I just picke up one of these myself a few months ago. Love it. Am selling my 1984 Gibson 335. Never play it since I bought this D'Angelico New Yorker EXDC. All around the "D" beats the Gibson hands down. People comment on its tone whenever I play out with it.

Originally Posted by seanlowe

its odd, i can't get a picture of my doublecut, but its pretty close to this

for a cheap (relatively, not for students *sigh*) guitar this is better than and other semi-hollowbody i've tried. Reeeeeaally personal tone, and sounds at least perfect through any amp at all, usually more than perfect though. Mine also has a kind of inherited history, transfered from a strat i had to trade in which my dad had for years...
If you want a guitar, buy this, no matter what, or at least try it out, and if you dont like it, get the shop to put some proper strings on it (originally i tried mine with 9's, until we asked and they were fine) and its almost a guarantee. Before trying mine, i sampled a benedetto, another dangelico (a new yorker) and a 70's Gibson, however this came out smelling of roses. I have heard theres some dodgy ones out there though, so presumably like fenders and gibsons theres some lacking, but yeah, go for it

[cherokeebat]

A friend of mine bought that same D'Angelico New Yorker and it sounds great!! Nice photo and good choice.

[Squint]

And these D'Angelicos and D'Aquistos will just keep getting better with age!

[brad4d8]

I don't currently own a solid body guitar, but do have a couple of archtops that I use for jazz. That said, when I was a working musician, jazz wasn't paying the bills, usually some sort of country or pop stuff was, and I found that the Telecaster was extremely versatile. Mine had a humbucker at the neck and could get the country twang I needed for gigs, but also had a really nice jazz tone when using only the neck p/u. I think that laminated double p/u archtops are similarly versatile, but carved tops are much more prone to feedback so really are not suitable for much other than small band jazz that doesn't need a lot of volume.
Brad