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Old 11-01-2011, 02:35 PM
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Okay, listening to Louis Armstrongs mute technique today and it occurred to me that I could emulate this on me wah wah (now that sounds really bad )!
Has any one tried this? Would you want to try this?

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that's what the wah wah was originally for...

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After a remark by Del Casher to Joe Banaron regarding the Harmon mute style of trumpet playing in the famous recording of "Sugar Blues" from the 1930s, Joe Banaron decided to market the wah-wah pedal using Clyde McCoy's name for endorsement
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:22 PM
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:42 PM
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The Vox wah pedal was named for trumpeter Clyde McCoy. I played in the orchestra pit in a musical and I can testify that the mute is alive and well in the horn players' world. I have a Floor Pod Plus that incorporates a wah. I love it.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:53 PM
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I've been trying to work on this technique myself because I'm a huge fan of well done wah on horns. I use a wah pedal on our band's funk songs, but I'm trying to get a good sound out of my guitar to make it worth the effort to bring my pedal in more often.
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Old 11-02-2011, 02:44 AM
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I've been trying to work on this technique myself because I'm a huge fan of well done wah on horns. I use a wah pedal on our band's funk songs, but I'm trying to get a good sound out of my guitar to make it worth the effort to bring my pedal in more often.
Same for me but in a more blues & rock context; Wah effect could bring a refreshing expressiveness in a rock / blues guitar solo and riff.
However, a minimum practice and effort are required to master it.
I currently use a Geoffrey Teese "Wheele of fire" RMC 6 (made in USA) with excellent result.
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:41 AM
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I have a Hendrix wah-but it's collecting dust. I've often thought about bringing it out, but I have a GREAT sound/tone/setup right now, that I'm afraid it will ruin.

Is there a wah pedal that works really well with a clean jazz setup? What is the best place for the wah in the pedal chain? amp--pedals--guitar.
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Old 11-02-2011, 08:58 AM
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I've used a basic crybaby forever, guitar going into it first before any other pedals. I use it for the classic solo wah expression, or with funk you get that tight groove going with your foot for rhythm guitar or riffing. I sweep it slowly and it sounds like a phase shiftter. Sometimes I'll use it as an active tone control, when I'm soloing I'll try to dial in some really mellow or scooped quacky tone with my foot and you find that sweet spot and just leave it there. I don't use it too much, but it's more than a one trick pony.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:05 AM
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I wish more players would actually use the wah like a horn player uses a plunger mute...

If I had a dime for every rock player I've heard who just rocked the thing back and forth sort of in time with the music...
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:51 AM
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I've always found the wah to be intuitive and highly expressive. Maybe I'll hook mine up again.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:29 AM
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A little OT, but how about that pedal steel solo by Skunk Baxter in the Steely Dan clip!? Didn't see that coming.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:49 AM
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For inspiration check out one of Duke Ellingtons early trumpet players, Bubber Miley, who was one of the first in this stye and maybe the best ever. Later Cootie Williams ran him a close second. The same effect was done on trumbone with much virtuosity by Tricky Sam Nanton, also of the early Ellington band.

In later years Ellington persuaded bebop oriented trombonist Bootie Wood to play wahwah style - which he had never done before - at a recording session, much to annoyance of Wood. After the recording session Wood told anybody who would listen "Why would he have me play that shit?". The funny thing is, that wahwah became a speciality for Wood ever after that.

Trombonist Quentin Jackson played wahwah in both the Basie and the Ellington bands of the 1950's and 60's. In the seventies he was with the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Big Band. He also participated in the Kenny Burrell albums "Ellinton is forever" vol 1 & 2 (along with the wonderful and greatly underrated pianist Jmmy Jones - check him out if you don't know him).
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i have a Morley in the closet i am gonna have t0 break out i even have a snarling dawgs blues buster wah with fuzz i might even bring out
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Incidentally, though I've never used it for jazz playing, for blues-stuff I'll sometimes turn on the wah and leave it with the pedal tapped forward, as an EQ/volume boost.
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It was good enuf fer Miles.

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