This is an odd one...

[Retroman1969]

...but I like it!
Gibson ES 165 Herb Ellis 175 meets L4-C | eBay

[rpguitar]

It's just a standard recent ES-165 with the original pickguard and electronics removed and kept safe. The extra pickguard is... "kinda" cool, but also pointless, since this is a laminated maple top and it functions only marginally as an acoustic guitar. I guess the seller felt he couldn't just play it unplugged and re-strung in order to assess his acoustic chops. Strange, but takes all types!

[SamBooka]

I have done some odd (read stupid) things.. no harm no foul.
Not sure I would sell this as a L4-a-like tho. He mentions that an L4 is carved and that this is a lam. He doesnt mention the unplugged output jack hole..

If it were me I would a) put it back together like it was originally b) sell the PG as a replacement for an L4 c) Lower the price by a couple of hun. 2000 is very optimistic for a not-L4

[Retroman1969]

Oh really, so it has the same acoustic limitations as the typical set-in Humbucker version? See, I thought it was some funky special order custom job intended as an acoustic version of the 165-175.
Shows what I know. Guess I didn't read the description closely enough.
Looks nice though.

[SamBooka]

not to get side tracked.. but I always wondered about the L4 with two HBs.

You have the two pickups, 16 in body, and a TOM. Is a carved top really necessary or a good thing?

[rpguitar]

Originally Posted by SamBooka

not to get side tracked.. but I always wondered about the L4 with two HBs.

You have the two pickups, 16 in body, and a TOM. Is a carved top really necessary or a good thing?

Well the the L4-CES is the same basic formula as the L-5CES, just with a Florentine cutaway and 1" narrower body. So I guess if you accept one, you would accept the other. The carved top is spruce obviously, which is a different tone than maple, and the acoustic properties are still there (if muted) but arguably somewhat irrelevant, as it's an electric guitar.

[Kuz]

My Heritage Custom 575 (based off ES-175) has two pickups with a SOLID CARVED MAPLE top.

I never use the bridge pickup.

When Kenny Burrell was designing his signature Heritage archtop he went with a Solid Spruce top and two humbuckers like his Super 400s. When asked why he wanted the bridge pickup since he never uses it, he said that the extra pup (although never used) help reduce feedback and actually gave the guitar a different tone that he liked.

Here is a pic of my Heritage Custom 575.....

[Vihar]

Originally Posted by Kuz

When asked why he wanted the bridge pickup since he never uses it, he said that the extra pup (although never used) help reduce feedback and actually gave the guitar a different tone that he liked.

He could have just put a piece of lead there.