For a warmer, less acoustic sound should I be looking at a laminate build? - Page 5

jorgemg1984 · #**121** 09-03-2011, 07:35 PM

Yes, 50% seems more accurate

And yes you can get very good jazz sounds from a 335, Rosenwinkel and Monder prove that everyday! Also agree on the last sentence, a 175 is more "electric" (which I like) and a solid floating arhcotp is more "acoustic", so a 335 will get much closer to the first one.

But I sometimes feel a 335 is compromise. Good for versatility but doesn't excel at rock or at jazz. I really miss my archtop even at "modern" gigs with loads of hall reverb and delay.

AZanshin · #**122** 09-04-2011, 01:53 PM

Wow this thread hurts my head and is now changing my decision o my new archtop purchase. I wanted to get the Eastman AR503CE which is a craved top but with lam back and sides, according to this thread this won't give me the thick electric sound i want.

This is making me consider the Eastman AR403CE a fully laminate. But at the same time I don't want to buy a guitar that sounds the same as my epiphone sheraton 2

TruthHertz · #**123** 09-04-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AZanshin

Wow this thread hurts my head and is now changing my decision o my new archtop purchase.

Turn off the advice. You're talking about something that you will have your own opinions on. Can't you find somewhere that you can try them out? You owe yourself that, no matter how much trouble it puts you to. Anyone can make a good argument, you're going to make a potentially life long decision based on the very personal option of someone you don't even know if you can trust?
Try them out yourself. Don't make your head hurt unnecessarily.
David

Vihar · #**124** 09-04-2011, 02:07 PM

AZanshin, I think if you just like the looks of the carverd top Eastman better, you shouldn't be ashamed getting it, even if it won't give you a better tone than the other ones.

Loobs · #**125** 09-04-2011, 02:12 PM

I dunno if it doesn't 'excel' at either. I think it can do great sounds, especially for rock. Maybe it's not the #1 choice for a straight up jazz machine though, if that's all you're doing.

Loobs · #**126** 09-04-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AZanshin

Wow this thread hurts my head and is now changing my decision o my new archtop purchase. I wanted to get the Eastman AR503CE which is a craved top but with lam back and sides, according to this thread this won't give me the thick electric sound i want.

This is making me consider the Eastman AR403CE a fully laminate. But at the same time I don't want to buy a guitar that sounds the same as my epiphone sheraton 2

You need to just play as many guitars as you can and let yourself be the judge. Anyone else's advice is futile. They can only point you in the right direction.

jorgemg1984 · #**127** 09-04-2011, 02:33 PM

I can get advice from anything (pedals, amps, cables, strings, etc...) and even buy online without trying sometimes - EXCEPT guitars. That is really up to you! Never buy a guitar online, always play it first and play as many as you can! Even two guitars from the same brand, year, etc.. can feel very different.

AZanshin · #**128** 09-04-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Loobs

You need to just play as many guitars as you can and let yourself be the judge. Anyone else's advice is futile. They can only point you in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I can get advice from anything (pedals, amps, cables, strings, etc...) and even buy online without trying sometimes - EXCEPT guitars. That is really up to you! Never buy a guitar online, always play it first and play as many as you can! Even two guitars from the same brand, year, etc.. can feel very different.

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Originally Posted by TruthHertz

Turn off the advice. You're talking about something that you will have your own opinions on. Can't you find somewhere that you can try them out? You owe yourself that, no matter how much trouble it puts you to. Anyone can make a good argument, you're going to make a potentially life long decision based on the very personal option of someone you don't even know if you can trust?
Try them out yourself. Don't make your head hurt unnecessarily.
David

I would really like to try these guitars out but their not even out yet

even if they were in london we don't have a lot of outlets for jazz guitars. The only one I know about is ivor mairants

Pierrot · #**129** 09-04-2011, 04:33 PM

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Loobs · #**130** 09-04-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AZanshin

I would really like to try these guitars out but their not even out yet

even if they were in london we don't have a lot of outlets for jazz guitars. The only one I know about is ivor mairants

Still, go to Ivor Mairants and try as many jazz boxes as you can, at least you'll get some idea. Do the legwork. They are very nice guys in there and were happy to let me try guitars.

Kuz · #**131** 09-05-2011, 08:28 AM

FWIW, I read this whole thread and I seem to agree with really everything that Jazzpunk stated. I am not taking sides here, but to give my opinion, which happen to align with exactly what Jazzpunk stated. Every time I felt like posting, he responded as I would.

We must have some crazy karma going on......