What do you like for a pick? - Page 2

Kuz · #31 08-27-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wallburg

I used Big Stubby for many years, but after I tried BlueChip Jazz I use them exclusively. I use 2.0 and 2.5 mm and find that the pick lies firm in my hand, don't slip, gives good tone, playability and speed. And they last probably forever.

Where did you buy your BlueChip Jazz picks? Aren't they like $75 from their web site?????

Scolohofo · #32 08-27-2011, 01:10 PM

MortenFaerestrand · #33 08-27-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

I'm VERY picky about picks...

Right now, I like a John Pearse Fast Turtle 2.5mm for eletric playing on my tele, Hofner, or Kay.

For gypsy jazz playing on my Gitane, I'm currently liking a DUgain (3mm) the best, although I also have a Wave pick by Gravitypicks and a Wegen that I like as well...seems to me the wave is best for lead, the Wegen is good for lead and good for rhythm, the Dugain is good for lead and great for rhythm...
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I have a request ;-) (if you have time sometime..) Could you do a video showing how different picks sound on your Gitane?

mr. beaumont · #34 08-27-2011, 01:30 PM

Absolutely...that sounds like fun, actually.

mr. beaumont · #35 08-27-2011, 03:12 PM

Okay, I threw this together, and it's making me think I'm a little crazy, as the difference between these picks are not nearly as pronounced as they sound in my head!

(obviously this has to do with the recording...right?)

Sorry if there's a little distortion...listen through good speakers if you can...

YouTube Video

MortenFaerestrand · #36 08-27-2011, 04:09 PM

Thanksm man, but it won't let me see it, sais it's private.

wallburg · #37 08-27-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuz

Where did you buy your BlueChip Jazz picks? Aren't they like $75 from their web site?????

Yes, they are almost ridiculous expensive, but worth it, at least to me. I don't think you can buy them anywhere else than the website. At least not in Europe where I live.

mr. beaumont · #38 08-27-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MortenFaerestrand

Thanksm man, but it won't let me see it, sais it's private.

Whoops! See if it works now...

Kojo27 · #39 08-27-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fws6

Have been using cheap buffalo horn picks from ebay for the last two years. The really thick ones not the thinnies. Have to reshape the tip, and wear them out in a couple of weeks, but they deliver a very nice warm tone. And at like $ 15 for 10 pieces they re OK pricewise too

Now see, the pick manufacturers of the world, with a few exceptions, miss a lot of business by falsely assuming we all like the prickly pointy tip of a weapon-like thing to pick with. Most do, apparently - but not all of us.

I think Dunlop has those black picks, very thick, but rounded, the way many players like them. The Michael Wegen line offers some not-so-pointy picks, but not much. David Grisman's "Dawg" picks are practically round - and about 2.5 mm, but they're celluloid-ish and I can't hang onto them.

Would love to find a really heavy "thumb imprint" pick, as in the photo, but with a rounded picking tip. Anybody know of such a thing?

Dennis D · #40 08-27-2011, 05:17 PM

Best I have found since day one.... You may want to check them out.

Vihar · #41 08-27-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kojo27

Would love to find a really heavy "thumb imprint" pick, as in the photo, but with a rounded picking tip. Anybody know of such a thing?

I don't know if it qualifies, but what about the V-Picks B series?

MortenFaerestrand · #42 08-27-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

Okay, I threw this together, and it's making me think I'm a little crazy, as the difference between these picks are not nearly as pronounced as they sound in my head!

(obviously this has to do with the recording...right?)

Sorry if there's a little distortion...listen through good speakers if you can...

YouTube Video

Thanks a lot man!!! Great demonstration, and sweet playing!! I think the difference between the pics is very clear, I'll definately check some of them out!

Kojo27 · #43 08-27-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vihar

I don't know if it qualifies, but what about the V-Picks B series?

Hey - that's the right shape and thickness. I'll get one and see how it goes.

Thanks...

kj

bluemood · #44 08-28-2011, 12:35 AM

I like fender classic celluliod or dunlop size heavy(351) and shape it to a dunlop jazz II size by cutting and sanding the back side.
I have tried to like thick picks but can't stand the clicking on the strings.
I like the Dunlop Jazztone 205 but there is some clicking.
D'Andera pro plec nice pick, clicking is there.
I want to try the new fender 451 heavy pick.

Kojo27 · #45 08-28-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bluemood

I like fender classic celluliod or dunlop size heavy(351) and shape it to a dunlop jazz II size by cutting and sanding the back side.
I have tried to like thick picks but can't stand the clicking on the strings.
I like the Dunlop Jazztone 205 but there is some clicking.
D'Andera pro plec nice pick, clicking is there.
I want to try the new fender 451 heavy pick.

Have you tried Ultex picks (Dunlop)? I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say the picks make "clicking" sounds.... with me, the thinner the pick, the more flap and flip I hear, but that's just me. Try the Ultex Jazz and the regular 351 (or is it 451?)-shaped picks (.60mm, .73mm, 1.0.mm and 1.14mm). I like 'em. A 1.14 mm Ultex sounds to me like a 2.5 mm Wegen. Thin but VERY hard. Drop one on a glass showcase top and it tinkles like glass.

kj

bluemood · #46 08-28-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kojo27

Have you tried Ultex picks (Dunlop)? I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say the picks make "clicking" sounds.... with me, the thinner the pick, the more flap and flip I hear, but that's just me. Try the Ultex Jazz and the regular 351 (or is it 451?)-shaped picks (.60mm, .73mm, 1.0.mm and 1.14mm). I like 'em. A 1.14 mm Ultex sounds to me like a 2.5 mm Wegen. Thin but VERY hard. Drop one on a glass showcase top and it tinkles like glass.

kj

Clicking is string noise that the thick pick produces when striking or stumming the strings.
Fender heavy pick I think is .96mm the 451 is just a smaller 351.
I have had trouble doing rhythm with the Dunlop jazz III type and the tone of the material I don't like except for the jazz II due to it's close to classic celluliod in tone.
Next time I order some picks I'll be sure to add some Ultex jazz to the list thanks and give them a try.

cubistguitar · #47 08-28-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wallburg

I used Big Stubby for many years, but after I tried BlueChip Jazz I use them exclusively. I use 2.0 and 2.5 mm and find that the pick lies firm in my hand, don't slip, gives good tone, playability and speed. And they last probably forever.

I am sold on the blue chip personally, the guy knows he is on to something killer. I am still capable of a little sticker shock on these thick ones though.

riovine · #48 08-28-2011, 07:23 PM

I also do not like very pointy picks. I've used Gibson Heavy for many years (1mm thick, medium teardrop, slightly rounded point). I bought a bunch of them back in the 80's, I don't think you can get them anymore. I have a whole gross of them.

I've recently been experimenting with different picks. I tried the Wegen Gypsy 2.5mm, they felt great (I loved the thumb depression & textured grip), they give a very loud tone & have a great feel on the strings, but I could not handle the clicking. I think I could live with it for single note stuff, but for chords it was downright unpleasant. I then started using the Dunlop 207 (my current pick), good tone & feel and less clickiness than the Wegen, but still more than my old Gibsons. I tried some of the David Grissman "Dawg" picks. Good feel & no clicking, but they are just too big for me (I find the 207s & Wegens to be about right sizewise). Since I've heard so many good things about the Blue Chips, I swallowed hard & ordered 2 (TPR60 with the rounded corner & TP60 with the pointier one). They should be coming next week, I'll check back when I get them.

The V-picks look interesting, but they seem almost too thick, and I bet they can be a bear to find if you drop them. But they are not too expensive, I might also give them a try.

mr. beaumont · #49 08-28-2011, 07:36 PM

Remember too that different guitars react to picks differently...the wegen for example would be much too clicky on my archtop, but it's among the quietest on my gitane...

The one pick I could never get on with is the stubby...I absolutely hate them! And look how many folks use them...that'll tell ya how subjectivve it all is.

riovine · #50 08-28-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

Remember too that different guitars react to picks differently...the wegen for example would be much too clicky on my archtop, but it's among the quietest on my gitane...

The one pick I could never get on with is the stubby...I absolutely hate them! And look how many folks use them...that'll tell ya how subjectivve it all is.

Very true Mr B. I don't have a gypsy git, so I was playing acoustically on my Campellone 17". I liked your video and definitely hear what your were saying about the gypsy "swish" on the upstroke. But that does not really work for a Freddie Green chunk, as he never really played upstrokes. I remember I had a big band director once who always used to give me grief if I ever played an upstroke on a Basie chart. He said FG never did that (and he was right!).

Anyway, I think I've looked at the Dugain before, interesting, but geeze, so many choices as to material, and I bet as many different sounds. Have you experimented with the various materials, what do you use. They might be a little too pointy to me. BTW, WRT the Wegens. You said you could not get as good a of a single note feel. I know when I tried it it took a while to get used to, but after a while I was able to get very fast & accurate on single notes. The bevel was really nice. If it sounded better comping on my archtop it would be my main pick.

mr. beaumont · #51 08-28-2011, 09:15 PM

I actully really like the feel for lead with the dugain, it's just not quite as loud as the wegen...

The dugain is clickier and swishier than I like on a regular archtop...there I really like the pearse fast turtle. I've seen folks call them too clicky, but actually the thing I like the best about the3m is they have no click...my touch is pretty light on electric though.

Yeah, no upstroke on freddie green style...funny how the overall goal is similar, but the approach is must different!

riovine · #52 08-28-2011, 09:24 PM

What material is your Dugain made from, and what other materials (if any) have you tried?

mr. beaumont · #53 08-28-2011, 09:34 PM

I have the acrylic (I think, its plastic esseentially) faux tortoise shell.

I have not experimented with the wood or stone dugains...I have owned wood and stone picks in the past and been unimpressed. ..not my bag.

dallasblues · #54 08-28-2011, 10:42 PM

I've used Fender "heavy" picks for many years. But recently, I've rededicated myself to practicing my guitar. Tonally... I find my fingers are the best. However... I'm finding a nice tone from a Dunlop .50mm. This pick is far thinner than anything I've been comfortable using before. The thing that I like about them is that I completely alter the way I pick when using them. With the "heavies" I always bludgeoned the strings to death. With these thin picks, I'm more or less caressing the strings. It's very different. I'm not sure that I'd rely on just one for all purposes, but it sure is fun to experiment and play with the different gauges.