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Maybe I'm asking too much, but I'd rather go for a semi-hollow that gets a great jazz tone than a dedicated single-pickup jazz box. Eastman El Rey?
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07-10-2011 06:14 AM
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How about a hollow double cutaway? Gibson es-330 or Epiphone Casino. Looks like a semi- plays high like a semi- sounds like a hollow because it is hollow.
If you do go semi-hollow, the choice of pickups can also effect the response you get and feel. I think my guitars' acoustic qualities came out more when I went with a Duncan jazz. My opinion only.
DavidLast edited by TH; 07-10-2011 at 06:35 AM.
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Check out Rob Engel's guitars, and search Bob DeVos on youtube for some excellent videos playing an Engel.
Marc
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Sadowsky Semi-Hollow - my dream guitar (and way out of my price range)!
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Yes...Eastman El Rey!!!!
Originally Posted by Loobs
Love mine.
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eastman 185/186 are fully hollow, don't feedback and sound like archtop guitars IMO
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Yeah, I think you want something fully hollow but thinner depth to get that unmistakable hollowbody sound, kind of a "thunk" to the notes--and I mean that in a positive way...semi hollows have this built in sustain that's pretty hard to get around...
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+1 to beaumont. I would seek something alng the lines of ibanez gb10 or pm120
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I recently compared an Epi Casino and side by side to my regular guitar, an Ibanez ES335 Clone and found the Epi to have a deeper low mid/ bass response, a bit closer to a big archtop; in the Casino, the absence of wood block surely plays a major role since the top vibrates more freely. But I was not really found of the playability of neck which is particulary thick on the Epi.
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1999 Heritage Golden Eagle! L5 Sweetness + So gorgeous!!!
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Semihollow my friend...
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Fully hollow, thinner depth, 2 pickups, Bigsby = Ibanez AFS75. Can do jazz, blues, rock, country, gospel, @ $399. Love mine. The deal for me is sealed by the fact that it is very lightweight and easy on the shoulders.
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There is a lot to be said for a semi with a center block that is fully configured as a jazz box AND takes advantage of the sustain the center block gives you that a trad jazz box does not.
My ES 339 has a Lollar CC in the neck and the notes sing beautifully clear, crisp and true, with each string ringing out with crystal clarity and without the HBing "muddiness" --with greater sustain qualities. I don't know if anyone put a CC on a semi,'but I have absolutely no regrets. The guitar is perfect, given the smaller size vis-a-vis a regular sized 335.
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I checked out the Bob Devos website. He's playing a Engel guitar on the background music, and he does get great tone, and the Engle does sound big box to me!B Originally Posted by marcwhy
ohttp://www.bobdevosjazzguitar.com/http://www.bobdevosjazzguitar.com/b DeVos endorses Rob Engel guitarsBob DeVos endorses Rob Engel guitars
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Anyone ever try a rosewood saddle on a thinline semi?
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Bob's a great guy. He and I spoke many times about the Engel. I was actually on the list to get one but Engel does not offer a money back return policy which is a sticky point for me on an instrument I have never personally played so I ended up passing on it. They appear to be really nice though.
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Would be hard, as generally thinline guitars have a shallower neck angle, so the saddle should be quite small to be adjustable... Originally Posted by customxke
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A few days ago I received this semihollow Eastman El Rey3 Custom from J. Hale Music. I've played the guitar very little yet, but has a great jazz tone.
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Yeah, his CDs are all excellent, too. Great feel, great lines. Originally Posted by helios
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Hi Everyone,
I own and play a Rob Engel guitar - 16' Hollowbody. I think it's a fantastic instrument. I am able to get many different timbres from the various pick-up options available through combining humbucking, parallel, and single-coil wiring on the p/up's. The instrument has a wonderful acoustic tone as well, which I have miced and combined with the electric output on recordings. It is also jaw-droppingly beautiful to see.Last edited by Dirk; 12-13-2019 at 08:14 AM.
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i almost bought an engel but he doesn't give an approval period and it was a lot of money. Also, currently he makes only a 25.5" scale.
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In my opinion, you don't get the response and tone of a jazz guitar from semi-hollows and slabs without setting them up as jazz guitars. Originally Posted by Loobs
Once you've done that, the semi-hollow (or slab) becomes a "dedicated jazz guitar" anyway, and you miss out on some of the additional benefits of the "dedicated single pickup jazz box."
There are good and valid reasons behind some people's preference for semi-hollow and solid body guitars for jazz...but I do not agree that the versatility versus one trick pony argument is one of them.
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Byrdman,
Beautiful Engel! Thanks for posting!
Marc
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I agree! My 335 is setup for jazz with heavy rounds which doesn't allow me to bend on rock gigs (which I rarely have anyway) but I miss my archtop when I use it... Even if the sound is similar the feeling is not. Originally Posted by cjm
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i have an ibanez as73, attempt at a 335, semi hollow, and i like it. i got heavy rounds on it, am planning to put new pups in it prob some 59's, but i got the semi, because i felt i had a little more versatility with a semi instead of a hollow, i use this one for jazz and blues, i have plenty of others for rock, but i just felt a semi could be used for more, than just committing to a full hollow at the time
i do still want and will still get a full hollow archtoop at some point but i do think if you do not have the cash to set up an instrument as a for one thing only, than a semi is more versatile and can give you some great jazz tones, and i like the sustain from the semi i considered that a plus
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