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04-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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| | If you look at one of the other guitars in this series, the Fender 51, it turns out to be an exact duplicate of the Squer (by Fender) 51. The big difference seems to be that they charged about $140 for the Squier 51, and $99 on closeout sale. Now they are trying to charge $800 for something that looks just like the lower cost Squire. Until someone can point out exactly what makes the Fender 51 worth six times the price of the Squier, I'm going to NOT buy one. I'm also going to look at the other two models with a jaundiced eye and wait until someone explains how the "Fender" guitars are any better than the similar "Squier" models.
Did they do a huge upgrade of the physical components? Better wood in the neck and body? More precision woodwork in the carving? Better electronics? Smoother, better shaped frets? Much more carefully applied finishes? It wouldn't matter, because I have one of the original Squier 51s, and I do wonder - if I got a Fender decal and applied it to the Squier Headstock instead of the Squier decal, could I sell the squire for closer to the $800?
Sounds like Fender has done a "Gibson." | 
04-04-2011, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pingu | Looks interesting to me also.
Cheers
Dave | 
04-04-2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by robertm2000 If you look at one of the other guitars in this series, the Fender 51, it turns out to be an exact duplicate of the Squer (by Fender) 51. The big difference seems to be that they charged about $140 for the Squier 51, and $99 on closeout sale. Now they are trying to charge $800 for something that looks just like the lower cost Squire. Until someone can point out exactly what makes the Fender 51 worth six times the price of the Squier, I'm going to NOT buy one. I'm also going to look at the other two models with a jaundiced eye and wait until someone explains how the "Fender" guitars are any better than the similar "Squier" models.
Did they do a huge upgrade of the physical components? Better wood in the neck and body? More precision woodwork in the carving? Better electronics? Smoother, better shaped frets? Much more carefully applied finishes? It wouldn't matter, because I have one of the original Squier 51s, and I do wonder - if I got a Fender decal and applied it to the Squier Headstock instead of the Squier decal, could I sell the squire for closer to the $800?
Sounds like Fender has done a "Gibson." | Yeah its also strange that you can easily spend > £1000 on a Fender Strat
or < £200 on a Squire Strat for an ostensibly similar instrument | 
04-04-2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pingu Yeah its also strange that you can easily spend > £1000 on a Fender Strat
or < £200 on a Squire Strat for an ostensibly similar instrument | I often hear people say that very thing. I wonder-would a Squier (or MIM) hold up to professional gigging as well as a made-in-USA (or Japan) Strat? I don't think they do, and I think that is what you are paying for. I don't even think that putting on good hardware is the only difference either-the Squiers, and MIM guitars just don't last for the professional gigging musician. Home use? Sure-why not.These Pawn shop gtrs look like a way of using up the factory sweepings to me-clearing out all the old rubbish. I may be wrong, and won't judge till I actually have a close look at them. | 
04-04-2011, 05:08 PM
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| | Although I've never had one in my hands, there are a bunch of Xavierre guitars on the Guitar Fetish website that seem to me to be as interesting or more than this Fender, especially with the different GFS pickups available. One could get, say, three of them for that one Fender. | 
04-04-2011, 05:27 PM
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| | C'mon guys, that little student violin looks just like a Stradivarius. That Stradivarius is such a ripoff, dude! Do you think we're idiots? | 
04-04-2011, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mongrel Although I've never had one in my hands, there are a bunch of Xavierre guitars on the Guitar Fetish website that seem to me to be as interesting or more than this Fender, especially with the different GFS pickups available. One could get, say, three of them for that one Fender. | Yeah they look good in the photos .........
How do they do it for the money ???
amazing really | 
04-05-2011, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pingu Yeah they look good in the photos .........
How do they do it for the money ???
amazing really | CNC in the PRC would be my guess. Recently I was going to pull the trigger on the new Florentine cutaway model with the ceramic magnet 'tron clones but then heard clips of the new GFS Surf 90 pickups and thought that I'd really like that guitar but with the Surf 90's instead of the 'trons and the $$ started to add up. Bought a new-old-stock Samick JZ 123 off Ebay instead. | 
04-05-2011, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mongrel Although I've never had one in my hands, there are a bunch of Xavierre guitars on the Guitar Fetish website that seem to me to be as interesting or more than this Fender, especially with the different GFS pickups available. One could get, say, three of them for that one Fender. |
I have been really wanting one of those guitars. I wonder if they hold up well . . . | 
04-05-2011, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Silence ...I wonder if they hold up well . . . | Good evening, Silence...
I have a XV600 (tele thin-line-ish with Dream pups...); I play it more than any of my others since it arrived (bought newly new...) a year ago. Still original strings, hardly ever needs tuning. Flexible sounds (not quite tele country brittle, but the pups are splittable. I've just never bothered...). Rolled back 'jazz' tone suits me, or can dial in a trebly 'chime' like a Gretch, close to Ricky's. Tough finish, excellent fretboard, all in all a great guitar which cost me 200€ delivered to France in a hard case. Maybe I was just lucky, but it's a 'no-brainer' to me.
Bright yellow, too, but then I never did have good taste..!
Hope this helps.
( No connection, of course, other than satisfied owner/player...)
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