anthony wilson - Page 2

customxke · #31 08-10-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bob32069

"DO NOT BE A GEAR GEEK. Be a student of your instrument, and invest time and get obsessed over that. We all love guitars, but they dont play themselves, do they?"

Truer words have never been spoken. This should be the motto of the Jazz Guitar Forum.

Might as well get rid of the Gizmo section. I personally like talking about guitars, especially archtops. I don't really like talking about music, or playing it. I'd rather just play music, than talk about it. But that, of course, is why they make both chocolate AND vanilla ice cream.

Makani · #32 08-11-2011, 04:42 PM

BTW I believe that Anthony Wilson switches from his Byrdland to a Monteleone on the Live in Paris album..

jorgemg1984 · #33 08-12-2011, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by customxke

Might as well get rid of the Gizmo section. I personally like talking about guitars, especially archtops. I don't really like talking about music, or playing it. I'd rather just play music, than talk about it. But that, of course, is why they make both chocolate AND vanilla ice cream.

Great point. Coming to a gear forum to say that theres no point about discussing gear doesn't make that much sense.

I have the Live in Paris DVD and I don't remember Anthony using the Monteleone. I think he started using it later because touring with a Byrdland was too dangerous for such a precious guitar...

D'Aquisto Fan · #34 08-12-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

Great point. Coming to a gear forum to say that theres no point about discussing gear doesn't make that much sense.

I have the Live in Paris DVD and I don't remember Anthony using the Monteleone. I think he started using it later because touring with a Byrdland was too dangerous for such a precious guitar...

I bet that Monteleone is worth more than the Byrdland.

jorgemg1984 · #35 08-12-2011, 10:47 AM

Well no to him since he tours with the Monteleone and leaves the Byrdland at home

I remember reading on his old blog he didn't like touring with the Byrdland, that guitar was really important to him

BigMikeinNJ · #36 08-12-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

Great point. Coming to a gear forum to say that theres no point about discussing gear doesn't make that much sense.

I have the Live in Paris DVD and I don't remember Anthony using the Monteleone. I think he started using it later because touring with a Byrdland was too dangerous for such a precious guitar...

I don't remember seeing anything but a Byrdland in that video and I watched it countless times. Smart leaving the Byrdland home.

Patrick2 · #37 08-12-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

Great point. Coming to a gear forum to say that theres no point about discussing gear doesn't make that much sense.

I have the Live in Paris DVD and I don't remember Anthony using the Monteleone. I think he started using it later because touring with a Byrdland was too dangerous for such a precious guitar...

I know the Monteleone that Anthony has. I'm not sure if he owns it or if John just has him using it for exposure. But, Anthony could EASILY buy 3 Birdlands for the price of that Monteleone.

helios · #38 08-12-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by D'Aquisto Fan

I bet that Monteleone is worth more than the Byrdland.

You be right about that!
Monteleone's seldom appear on the used market (you might be able to buy a picture of one on Ebay). Used "issue free" 70's-current Byrdlands go for $4000-7000 depending on condition (New Byrdlands = $8800 or so).
New Monteleone's START at: $10,000 but by the time personal options are factored in, it could approach $20,000!
Unless Antony's Byrdland is a "Vintage" 50-60's, or simply has special value to him, the Monteleone is worth more in market terms (not sentimental terms).

jorgemg1984 · #39 08-12-2011, 01:22 PM

I think its his guitar, he tours with it a lot,. he uses it so much I think its his own guitar.

Well about the value of the guitar, I get your point but selling value and musical value are different things. I have played guitars that were very expensive because they were brand A or B and didn't like them and played cheap guitars that I really loved. A Monteleone is for sure an amazing guitar and much more expensive than the Gibson but I bet the Gibson has a really important sentimental value for Anthony, he must have used a lot on his young years, I bet he would easily sell the Monteleone than the Byrdland. But then he is playing with Diana Krall, no need for selling guitars.

I also feel 50s and 60s Gibsons have a magic thing that's hard to explain. Bernstein for example now plays a Zeidler, maybe the most expensive archtop on earth. I like his sound but liked his sound better with his vintage Gibson and the Zeidler is a much better guitars in every way possible. And I also prefer Anthonys tone with the Byrdland and the Monteleone is also a much better guitar.

D'Aquisto Fan · #40 08-12-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I think its his guitar, he tours with it a lot,. he uses it so much I think its his own guitar.

Well about the value of the guitar, I get your point but selling value and musical value are different things. I have played guitars that were very expensive because they were brand A or B and didn't like them and played cheap guitars that I really loved. A Monteleone is for sure an amazing guitar and much more expensive than the Gibson but I bet the Gibson has a really important sentimental value for Anthony, he must have used a lot on his young years, I bet he would easily sell the Monteleone than the Byrdland. But then he is playing with Diana Krall, no need for selling guitars.

I also feel 50s and 60s Gibsons have a magic thing that's hard to explain. Bernstein for example now plays a Zeidler, maybe the most expensive archtop on earth. I like his sound but liked his sound better with his vintage Gibson and the Zeidler is a much better guitars in every way possible. And I also prefer Anthonys tone with the Byrdland and the Monteleone is also a much better guitar.

I was merely talking value from a financial perspective. I'm pretty sure Wilson's Byrdland is a late 50s or early 60s model with PAFS. But even then it wouldn't be as expensive as a Monetelone. Especially in this market. And, yes, the Byrdland and the Monteleone Radio Flyer are two very different guitars that yield different tones. I wouldn't say one is better than the other. Nor would I say that about the Zeidler. And no, Zeidler's aren't the most expensive archtops either. That distinction would probably go to great D'Angelicos and D'Aquistos. Bottom line. They're all great guitars that do different things. And most importantly, Anthony Wilson is a fantastic player.

RoyaleT · #41 08-12-2011, 02:31 PM

I don't think it as always the $$ as the deciding factor in one's choice of instruments.. The value( not cost) of any guitar to the player is more feel, and sound. There are plenty of posts here to attest to the fact that many players walk ot of a shop with a lower price guitar because of those factors.

jorgemg1984 · #42 08-12-2011, 02:34 PM

Yeah Anthony is great! I know a Monteleone is worth more than a Gibson but I think I would rather have the Byrdland

Didnt know Dangelios and Daquistos were more expensive, a guy I know payed 20000€ for a Zeidler, I thought you couldn't beat that, will check the prices on those guitars.

fordfanjpn · #43 08-15-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ

A great video, thank you for posting that. Same guy but playing a Tele, just shows you it's the artist, not necessarily the gear.

‪Mitsukuni Tanabe plays a 1965 style blond Tele I built from scratch.‬&rlm; - YouTube

I know both of those guys! The guy who built the Tele (from scratch), Shin Ichikawa, does all my guitar work. He's an extremely talented luthier.

Tanabe-san is my favorite jazz guitarist. He started out playing rock and blues, and when he solos he likes to stick blues licks in here and there. He's a very interesting player.

Bill