Schatten Archtop pickup

GodinFan · #1 01-12-2011, 10:03 AM

Just ordered myself one of these.

It's actually made about 20 miles from my house, but of course none of the local dealers stock it.

I'm going to install it on my Godin 5th Avenue. The pickup comes with a jack that can be installed at the endpin, or mounted externally on the tailpiece. No drilling needed for the external mount.

BigDaddyLoveHandles · #2 01-12-2011, 11:34 AM

Interesting! Let us know how it sounds.

kris · #3 01-12-2011, 12:32 PM

[quote=GodinFan;116539]Just ordered myself one of these.

It's actually made about 20 miles from my house, but of course none of the local dealers stock it.

I'm going to install it on my Godin 5th Avenue. The pickup comes with a jack that can be installed at the endpin, or mounted externally on the tailpiece. No drilling needed for the external mount.

Is it your Godin acoustic?

GodinFan · #4 01-12-2011, 12:59 PM

I have three Godins. The 5th ave, which is acoustic, a Kingpin CWII, and a Summit CT.

kris · #5 01-12-2011, 01:51 PM

Shatten-great pick ups.
I used one for hand made clasical guitar.Exelent sound.

newsense · #6 01-12-2011, 02:28 PM

GodinFan - please update the post when you have tested the Schatten. I am currently considering installing their Maccaferri type pickup in my Gitane DG255. Although they are different attachment styles (the Maccaferri is internal), I assume they use the same piezo transducer. I'd be really interested to hear how "un-piezo" they sound ! (-this from a guy who makes his living out of developing new piezo materials !!)

Thanks

GodinFan · #7 01-12-2011, 02:50 PM

I'm looking forward to it - Schatten says the p/u works great straight into an amp, but recommends a preamp/DI if you're going to a PA.

I have an L.R. Baggs Para Acoustic DI that I plan on using with it.

newsense · #8 01-12-2011, 03:05 PM

I'm also planning on the passive version in conjunction with a Behringer ADI 21 acoustic pre-amp which I currently use with a classical guitar with a (Shadow) piezo bridge. Despite the incredibly low cost, the sound from the Behringer is amazing and, so far, no problems with reliability.

GodinFan · #9 01-12-2011, 03:10 PM

I have one of those Behringer ADI units as well. It sounds fine, but the Baggs has a phase invert and notch filter - both quite handy for quelling feedback.

jimraygilliam · #10 02-19-2011, 11:58 AM

Hey GF, just checking to see if you ever got your Schatten p/u and how you like it. I've got one of the new Loars and want to amplify it. Thanks, Jim

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Originally Posted by GodinFan

I'm looking forward to it - Schatten says the p/u works great straight into an amp, but recommends a preamp/DI if you're going to a PA.

I have an L.R. Baggs Para Acoustic DI that I plan on using with it.

GodinFan · #11 02-19-2011, 12:12 PM

I need to test it in a live situation. There's a bit of falloff on the E strings. You really need to use the supplied bridge to make it work properly.

jimraygilliam · #12 02-19-2011, 12:16 PM

Thanks for the info. I guess I thought you had to use the supplied bridge. Isn't the transducer built into the bridge? I have an LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI that I plan to use. Do you think that would make a difference? Really appreciate your feedback. Jim

ybjazz · #13 09-03-2011, 07:34 PM

I know I'm chiming in late....

I just installed this on my archtop, I ran the wire inside the guitar and wired up a volume and a tone pot which are hidden in the F-holes with thumbwheel style knobs. First off, it sounds and works great.

A preamp is pretty much necessary in order to boost the volume and better shape the tone, but the end result is fantastic.

Now, in regards to the tone knob. I called Schatten and they told me that it was not possible to wire a tone knob to it successfully. I disagree, mine works just fine. The only downside is that as it adjusts the tone, once you roll off all the way you do lose a little volume....but if you go "almost all the way", it's fine. I try to play with the tone knob wide open anyways and make my adjustments on that amp, but it's nice to have it to have a little tweaking room depending on where I'm playing.

GodinFan · #14 09-04-2011, 05:29 PM

I'm not currently using the Schatten pickup. Falloff on the E strings was too much to deal with.

I'm thinking of trying a Graph Tech Ghost bridge instead. Individual saddles, hex output, adjustable levels for each string.

ybjazz · #15 09-04-2011, 06:53 PM

I'm surprised to hear that, I'm not having that problem. I guess it just depends on the guitar- is your guitar a solid top or laminate?