Sailor needs help...again

[Sailor]

After a handful of lessons with new teacher I am moving on. Not great teaching...learned some essentials...correct fingerings, better timing, better use of pick on electric, (I'm Classical), and I also learned that many of my tunes are not really "jammed" on in jazz ensemble settings. Stormy Weather, Cry Me A River, Misty, Georgia, etc....

Question 1: I need a re-direct to the top jazz jam songs I should be learning...can't find it yet...know it's here?

Question 2: Any brilliant ideas on the most efficient way to learn ARPS. That seemed to hold up the lessons...he wanted me to play ARPS over all songs since I could play all chords and melodies but I'm still way slow on arpeggio. up and down from 6th string....from 5th string?

Thanks in advance, Sailor

[kaige]

Could you explain why songs such as Stormy Weather, Cry Me A River, Misty, and Georgia cannot be used for jamming?
Was your teacher splitting hairs over jamming and improvising?
I don't get where he's going with "not really jammed on."

[Space Pickle]

What your (ex) teacher may have been getting at was while those tunes are all jazz standards they're also all ballads. I mean, guys aren't going to get together and throw down on ballad after ballad, particularly if you're jamming in a bar. Learn some swinging tunes.

[Sailor]

Yeah...he wants me to learn tunes that will be called at a jam session as opposed to all the ballads that I had been learning on my own. I was assuming that there are some standard tunes that cats jam on regularly...and tunes that are NEED to know? ATTYA, Blue Bossa, Rhythm Changes, Stella, Summertime, On Green Dolphin Street, Autumn Leaves, etc...that's what I've been coming up with from all the lists I've seen.

Thanks, Sailor

[Baltar Hornbeek]

take small bites, use your jazzbo imagination and create a little simple slow etude for yourself. not only will you learn to arpeggiate chords, but you will begin to develop one of the essential elements needed to play jazz.... invention

[Sailor]

small bites...great advice...keep it coming!!!!!

Thanks, Sailor

[cosmic gumbo]

Originally Posted by Sailor

Yeah...he wants me to learn tunes that will be called at a jam session as opposed to all the ballads that I had been learning on my own. I was assuming that there are some standard tunes that cats jam on regularly...and tunes that are NEED to know? ATTYA, Blue Bossa, Rhythm Changes, Stella, Summertime, On Green Dolphin Street, Autumn Leaves, etc...that's what I've been coming up with from all the lists I've seen.

Thanks, Sailor

You still are mentioning mostly ballads. You should be thinking more uptempo ii v, and blues.

[Sailor]

"You still are mentioning mostly ballads. You should be thinking more uptempo ii v, and blues."

OK Help me out Cosmic...I am playing Blues, Blue Monk, Bags Groove, Rhythm Changes, (slowly)...what other good up tempo tunes should a relative newbie, who can sight read, play for jam practice????????

Thanks, Sailor

[TommyD]

It Had To Be You
Sunny Side Of The Street
East Of The Sun
I Can't Give You Anything But Love
Avalon
Satin Doll
Perdido
How High The Moon
Lullaby Of The Leaves
Shiny Stockings
Out Of Nowhere
Five Brothers
Indiana
These should keep you busy for a couple of years.
Tommy/

[Sailor]

Cooool! I will look at, and try, all of them....some I've never heard of.

Thanks Tommy

Sailor