Jimmy Bruno Guitar Institute? - Page 3

merseybeat · #61 09-21-2010, 07:51 AM

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string clipping(I need that clarified),

Hi, its when you accidently clip an adjacent string (Note) "unintentionally" with the note you where meant to play! Its down to poor/sloppy picking!

mechanical repetitiveness = When your brain is swiched off and your pet licks programmed into your muscle simply take over! i.e. no thought is going into the actual music!

Hope that helps!

Patrick Brown · #62 09-21-2010, 07:59 AM

Copy that. Kind of what I was figuring. The 2nd is not too much of a prob(I hope!), clipping a string,,well,,if it happens once, I sometimes let it go in a take, just to keep it not perfect.

I don't consider it a real prob in my playing, though I endeavor to avoid it. Far as the repetitivity(love that word!) goes, I'm always on watch for that Thanks Merseybeat.

Origami · #63 09-23-2010, 12:01 AM

Back on topic

I signed up on Sunday, and I'm enjoying it. The 5 shapes is so simple and I already "knew" them but for some reason it now just makes more sense - it made a world of difference. That there's a great teacher for you.

"It's only true in a book!" I love Jimmy's approach so far. I worry less!

Patrick Brown · #64 09-23-2010, 06:57 AM

My new go to line,,,Love it too,(also,,,'but we're not gonna think like that'),,,really makes me laugh out loud when he says that stuff,,,and, Jack Zucker's(Sheets of Sound),,'There are no wrong notes'

docbop · #65 09-23-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Brown

'There are no wrong notes'

You're leaving out the rest of that line... "but there is bad articulation."

Patrick Brown · #66 09-23-2010, 07:19 AM

Can't disagree there, but I go where angels fear to tread. Hee.(one of my problems)

subdrummer · #67 09-25-2010, 10:35 PM

I was tempted to sign up. The idea of a simplified way of understanding jazz harmony is very intriguing to a dumb guy like me. I hesitate because last year when I first started trying to play I bought a Jimmy Bruno book from 2002 and it's premise was that the simplified way was to learn six scale positions and formulas for using them for various modes and keys.

Not only was it not simple to me but it seems funny that the new " simplified system" is to disregard the last "simplified system".

I kind of think I should just skip the whole simplified fantasy and just learn it all at my own slow pace(if I manage to live that long) and try to enjoy the ride. David

cutnstuf · #68 09-25-2010, 10:42 PM

sub,
The nice thing about this course is that you learn via video, not a book. You can't ask a book questions. I'm familiar with both of Bruno's methods and the 5 shape system is easier to learn from than the old way. JMHO

Cut

subdrummer · #69 09-25-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cutnstuf

sub,
The nice thing about this course is that you learn via video, not a book. You can't ask a book questions. I'm familiar with both of Bruno's methods and the 5 shape system is easier to learn from than the old way. JMHO

Cut

Thanks Cut. I'm leaning toward giving it a shot. David

merseybeat · #70 09-26-2010, 02:13 AM

Subdrummer

There are so many ways to cook and egg! Unfortunatley jazz has so many approaches that the combinations are endless (thats why there are nearly 100,000 posts on this forum)

I totally agree that you need a "formal" basic foundation (and Jimmy doesnt provide that). I have bought so many books, CD's, DVD's and everyone is a different approach. But most books do share basic fundamentals. I actually break my practice up these days. Something like this

Theory
Dexterity (Scales, Arps)
Fun with BIAB

But as regards to JB's site its nice to have an alternative instruction! I got a lot of tips and tricks from JB but I joined after I had my basic Jazz theory down!

Ed

rdube · #71 09-26-2010, 07:33 AM

I agree about all the ways to cook the egg. I joined JBGI a few months ago after playing bluegrass etc. for years - but no jazz. I think it's absolutely remarkable. In no time at all he has you playing the music - comping, chord melody, arps and improvising. You can get down the basics of three or four tunes and spread your practice time among them working on developing your chord melodies, developing your improvising, keeping from being bored and so on. He has backing tracks you can download and you can also reference other students' videos on the same areas you're working in.
I don't have especially lofty goals in jazz so I guess I can throw caution to the winds somewhat in how I approach my studies. I did call a top local jazz instructor a few months ago who was completely incredulous that I'd called him because I didn't really know anything about jazz. After he'd calmed down a bit we chatted, I told him about my modes and scale efforts I'd been making and he told me there was one thing I should absolutely do before anything else: Go and play the songs.
Depending how you like your eggs, Bruno's site is brilliant.

Patrick Brown · #72 09-26-2010, 08:19 AM

He's tying up a lot of loose ends for me. I like the comping chords,,duh,,why I didn't catch on to those earlier, after all those years in the 80's with alot more strings,,,,duh again. Problem with DIY,,,it can get you rather advanced in some areas, and quite deficient in others,,,,,glad I don't have more books than I do. But I've got Berklee's,,,good ones. That old saying 'the teacher appears when the student is ready' really applies here.

lindydanny · #73 09-27-2010, 08:43 AM

I know it has helped me. I'm tons better and I've only been in the institute for a week.

That said, I think that you do need to know some basic stuff going in. This is not a course for someone to pickup the guitar for the first time ever and start. If you did, I would expect you would get extremely frustrated extremely quickly. There's not hold-it-like-this or tune-it-like-this tutorials.

It also helps to know the major scale (root to root) before hand. Also, some basic chord progression knowledge. He talks a lot about ii-V progression before he actually explains it.

~DB

docbop · #74 09-27-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lindydanny

I know it has helped me. I'm tons better and I've only been in the institute for a week.

That said, I think that you do need to know some basic stuff going in. This is not a course for someone to pickup the guitar for the first time ever and start. If you did, I would expect you would get extremely frustrated extremely quickly. There's not hold-it-like-this or tune-it-like-this tutorials.

It also helps to know the major scale (root to root) before hand. Also, some basic chord progression knowledge. He talks a lot about ii-V progression before he actually explains it.

~DB

That is why they are called Master Classes it is assume you are a intermediate or better guitarist. Even though Jimmy is anti-theory you do need to know basics like how chords are derived from scales, the harmonized scale so you understand II-V-I language of discussing progressions. Even major scale degrees so when he talks outside notes and sharping or flatting a note which note to alter. If you don't you might want to have a book or tutor to help you.

Patrick Brown · #75 09-27-2010, 10:50 AM

Did you catch where mentioned,,,'you can extend the chord, but don't alter it',,,meaning go ahead, use 9(2), 11(4,,suspension), or 13(6), but throwing in b or # 9, or b or #5 would be an alteration. In fact, those 4, plus the b7, common to all dominants, fill the palette of the 'color' notes. Nice and tidy.