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#1
06-29-2010, 06:58 PM
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 pratice routine So i have recently gotten into jazz and i was wondering if any one could edit my partice routine. my current routione right now is scales/ arppegios- 30min new standards- 30-45min review old standards- 20-45 min Am i on the right direction? i do other practicing through out the day but it isnt jazz Oriented.     |
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#2
06-29-2010, 09:07 PM
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| your jazz goals and ambitions, and in what time frame, are what please? |
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06-29-2010, 09:11 PM
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My goals to evetually go to universty. (In 3 years). but im also looking to get into the high school jazz band (in 4 months if i feel confident or next year) i hope i coverd every thing And i have a basic understading in music theory |
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#4
06-29-2010, 10:24 PM
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| OK. how would you rate your current playing level using the Berklee Guitar definition of levels, as a measurement? |
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#5
06-29-2010, 10:57 PM
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| I just got into my HS Jazz Band. I had almost no prior knowledge of jazz I only knew some moveable 7th chords and how to write a walking bass line. Don't make that your goal! I transferred from classical so I knew how to read. They basically ask you to play a few scales like a Major Scale or Melodic Mionor or Natural Minor (common scales) Then you have some audition music its all comping They don't expect you to know how to improvise Then they give you some Sight reading which is most likely just gonna be comping and they don't expect you to do well I mean most high schoolers wont be able to sight read a D7 flat 9 chord. They really want you to practice practice and practice the music they give you. Oh ya they check your grades and they usually want some experience with playing with other people. If you dont have and just pop out a metronome and have fun. |
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06-30-2010, 06:47 AM
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06-30-2010, 09:15 AM
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| Sounds like a good allotment of time. However, you don't mention what you are doing with those standards. Reading is very important, and even 10 minutes a day will reap quite a bit of improvement. Learning the melody of these standards, and the progressions is the key. Once you get those down pretty well, you should transpose them in a few other keys. |
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#9
06-30-2010, 09:33 AM
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| Usually when I've seen these lists there's no mention of playing songs. Good for you to include playing songs as part of your practice; that is the most important part. You can combine your scale/arp practice with your song practice: Take a tune, (let's use Tune up for example) Without worrying about tempo or number of beats per bar... 1) play the 1st chord Em7, in the same position as you played the chord run a Em dorian scale 2) In the same position that you played the chord run a Em7 arp. Then play the A7#11 chord and do the same thing running the scale (A7 lydian dominant) and the A7#11 arp (oops, maybe this isn't the best tune to start with but you get the idea). Do this for every chord in the tune. Then do it all over again, but this time with a metronome and paying attention to the number of beats per bar (slowly at first), trying to play pieces of those scales but changing the scales as the chords change, do the same for the arpeggios. Then you could try it again but playing the whole tune in one position. Then, other keys. Last edited by fep : 06-30-2010 at 09:36 AM. |
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06-30-2010, 02:30 PM
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06-30-2010, 09:59 PM
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if so, i strongly advise that you spend a few minutes perusing their web site, the guitar department specifically, then see what they have laid out for levels 1-8. then rate yourself. then i can help you with your practice routine. |
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#12
07-01-2010, 08:48 PM
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i would most likley aduction for college in Texxas like UNT i took a look at a the berklee level thing i looked at level 1 and i saw that i wasnt familar with alot of the triads/ chords manily because i only started jazz a month and a half ago so how much/ what should i practice to prepare? (i have 3 years) |
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#13
07-01-2010, 09:41 PM
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UNT is great. Have a look at their courses too. They list out their course descriptions AND expose the syllabi online. They provide more insight into their jazz courses online than any other college that I know of. also, they have been traditionally harder to get into than Berklee. that said, Berklee's program is still a model jazz guitar program, so its good to pay close attention to it if you are going to be a jazz guitar major, even if you wont go there. for jazz guitar its second to none. OK, so if i were going to do it all over again i would take my high school years and do everything that i could to be at the junior, senior, or even graduate level by the time i graduated from high school. thats right. you can do that with music and and almost do it with athletics. you cant say that for every major or vocation. if you doubt me i would encourage you to closely review the history of Pat Metheny, Lee Ritenour, John McLaughlin and George Benson. Joe Pass too (playing in clubs as a teenager etc, etc). Or for that matter Mozart or Christopher Parkening. So what i am saying is this. no, you dont have to be as great as those guys right now. dont put too much pressure on yourself. but you should do everything short of making bad grades (like Metheny's "mercy graduation" as he put it) to come as close to it as possible. you should put some pressure on yourself! so what i would do is get comfortable with the notion that i need to (gradually) ramp up to about 4-5 hours of practice and performing per day. one of those hours can be at school (band). so thats 4 hours after school. you can do more on the weekend. be careful to use good technique and dont overstress your hands, arms, or back by staying in one position too long or by playing scales or argpeggios until your tendons fall off. dont be paranoid but be smart and be on the lookout for repetitive stress injuries. but its not just putting in time to punch the clock. it needs to be time well invested. so, you need some structured and focused practice routines, or "workouts". you should have at least 2 if not 3 routines to alternate between so as not to get stale and to cover more material. if you are roughly at levels 1-2 it should include: technique, (approx 45% of the total time) repertoire (tunes) (approx 25%) reading (10-20%) improvisation (10%-20%) just IMHO. forgot one, and there are many, many more. Al DiMeola. Metheny became a Berklee teacher, DiMeola left Berklee to join Chick Corea at 19, at 19 Ritenour was an LA session guitarist sitting next to Tommy Tedesco et al, and also at 19 or so Johnny Mac was playing in London studios. again, its just proof that it can be done, has been done, and will continue to be done. so take inspiration from it and give it all you've got! Last edited by fumblefingers : 07-01-2010 at 10:09 PM. |
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#14
07-01-2010, 11:13 PM
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| What do you specifically mean by technique. I try to play correct left hand technique whenever I'm playing. Its really something you kind of do naturally after a while even though it may not be precisly perfect. I'm not to familiar with right hand technique for specifically jazz guitar. But what would you suggest practicing all these different right hand techniques? Picking Thumb pick and fingers Pick and fingers All fingers Just thumb |
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#16
07-02-2010, 09:19 PM
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| right guys. 1. "technique" means all scales, modes, chords, arpeggios, intervals, jazz patterns, etc. 2. Right hand? - primarily pick. but also pick and fingers. thumb stuff is OK too but there is no rush at lower levels of proficiency. |
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#18
07-03-2010, 09:29 AM
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| Scales we love to hate is a pretty sweet book...the cover fell off of mine from using it soo much... i just noodle nowadays and i rarely play out but i do enjoy a good jam session using chord standards... i never went to college and i got into the jazz band in HS by the skin of my teeth but believe me i studied up and the Teach said i was a totally different player after i devoted three months of my time to |
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#19
07-03-2010, 10:46 AM
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| The key to getting into the best school jazz bands be it high school or college, is very simple... read!!! If a fly lands on your page play it! When I've seen my students or other young players, or years back when I was in these groups myself, you will almost always see the uitar in a supporting role. There aren't a lot of outside burnin solos in high school jazz bands. Get yourself the Micky Baker jazz guitar lesson book (You can get it on amazon for less than ten bucks) and work on chords, inversions, and reading rhythmn charts. Listen to a lot of Freddie Green and you will be on the right track. |
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#21
07-03-2010, 06:26 PM
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| the reading and Mickey Baker advice is fine but i would use the Leavitt series as my mainstay. one can round out Leavitt's method with excerpts from other books and methods, like Baker's and Galbraith's. IMHO. UNT and Berklee have small groups for guitarists. UNT in particular has 3 guitar ensembles. (335, super 400, L5). corny I know, but what the hell. other schools have small groups too if you are ready. so get ready! |
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