might be going to jazz piano instead of guitar

[syllerud]

Hello! I'm this close to stop playing jazzguitar as my main-instrument and taking the piano instead. I'm a fan of classical jazz, (Bill Evans per example). I think the fun part of playing is experimenting with chordvoicings. I'm a bit confused, could anyone help me?

[mr. beaumont]

looks like you're a candidate for sid jacobs' book of bill evans stuff arranged for guitar. should give you a nice look at some evans-like voicings.

don't give up on the guitar--we need more guitar players out there who are willing to exploit the polyphonic nature of our instrument. too many cats are just sax-listening gun slingers.

[syllerud]

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

looks like you're a candidate for sid jacobs' book of bill evans stuff arranged for guitar. should give you a nice look at some evans-like voicings.

don't give up on the guitar--we need more guitar players out there who are willing to exploit the polyphonic nature of our instrument. too many cats are just sax-listening gun slingers.

I don't like Sid Jacobs arrangement, i often find the song my self and transcribe it myself to tabs. It's a hell of a work, but well worth it. Yeh, screw that saxcats

[syllerud]

Originally Posted by 604bourne123

Well gunslingers are here no matter what.Anyways modes of the dominant chords/mixolydian thats what I'am dealing also minor 7 flat 5 modes and locrian.

I don't quite understand mate.

[mr. beaumont]

Originally Posted by syllerud

I don't like Sid Jacobs arrangement, i often find the song my self and transcribe it myself to tabs. It's a hell of a work, but well worth it. Yeh, screw that saxcats

what's not to like about jacobs' arrangements?

besides, who says you have to learn the arrangement note for note? that's not jazz anyway. The idea is to look at these for ideas. jacobs used actual 'scripts evans wrote for many of the voicings--you're not gonna get much closer to actually picking bill's brain than that.

[syllerud]

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

what's not to like about jacobs' arrangements?

besides, who says you have to learn the arrangement note for note? that's not jazz anyway. The idea is to look at these for ideas. jacobs used actual 'scripts evans wrote for many of the voicings--you're not gonna get much closer to actually picking bill's brain than that.

I don't think that Sid Jacob got the rigth voicing-ideas, and the songs in his books are not the onces i like. As Simple as my own opinion.

[mr. beaumont]

Originally Posted by syllerud

I don't think that Sid Jacob got the rigth voicing-ideas.

i really don't understand what you're looking for then. Many of the chord voicings in this book are bill evans' voicings, transferred to guitar. it's right there, you just gotta know how to steal it. i dig that you might not like some of the songs, but maybe if you listed some of the songs you were interested in or where specifically you're running into trouble i could help you more. closed voicings? polychords? it can be done--i do it, and i'm nobody special!

have you transcribed any lenny breau? he probably came as close as anyone to approximating bill's approach on guitar.

[derek]

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

have you transcribed any lenny breau? he probably came as close as anyone to approximating bill's approach on guitar.

Certainly closer than anyone I have ever heard. I would say take up the piano if you are interested. There are too many guitarists anyway, and not enough pianists.

[hot ford coupe]

The piano is a great instrument but the string change on it is murder. Besides, there are no strap pins on the piano.

[Little Jay]

Switch to piano!
More then enough guitarplayers in this world already!


Seriously: how could we ever advice you... it's what you feel like doing.
But why not both?

[FatJeff]

I think the two instruments are about as different as you can get. Obviously I play guitar, and I've been taking jazz piano lessons for a little while now...I think both complement each other. One is not the replacement of the other.

To echo the last post, why not both??

[TommyD]

Originally Posted by FatJeff

I think the two instruments are about as different as you can get. Obviously I play guitar, and I've been taking jazz piano lessons for a little while now...I think both complement each other. One is not the replacement of the other.

To echo the last post, why not both??

"Why not both"? Because becoming a good player requires lifelong dedication far beyond a dilettante approach, and in fact, such capricious indecision is exactly what separates great artists from the rest of us.

[FatJeff]

Originally Posted by TommyD

"Why not both"? Because becoming a good player requires lifelong dedication far beyond a dilettante approach, and in fact, such capricious indecision is exactly what separates great artists from the rest of us.

Oh, please. I should dedicate every spare moment of my time to practicing the guitar only, shunning all other instruments? Give me a break. What separates great artists from the rest of us is not putting in an extra hour a day on the guitar.

[~mf~]

kurt rosenwinkel is masterful at both. i play both. there are many songs that i have written on guitar that i never would have written on piano and vice versa. practice time on either will make you a better musician, and if you practice efficiently, you should have time for both.