Handling Mistakes

[neilio]

I saw this blog on how to handle errors & mistakes, and thought I'd share it...

http://musiciansway.com/blog/2012/05...rror-response/

[docbop]

I saw this blog on how to handle errors & mistakes, and thought I'd share it...

The Primary Error Response – The Musician's Way Blog

Biggest problem musicians have is when they make mistakes they drop their volume and that is like sending up a flare. As taught in music school "Wrong, but strong!". Once you have played a klunker a couple time and kept your volume up you realize most people never notice.

[marcwhy]

One of my favorite recorded mistakes is by Kurt Rosenwinkel on his tune, "Minor Blues." He's just partway into his solo, playing a "Kurt" line, and he slips and bops a string ..... he pauses, and then he hits it a few more times before taking off on another run! It's hilarious, and also refreshing to hear such a player make -- and keep -- a mistake.

[oldane]

Interviewer to Art Tatum: "It's amazing how you never make any mistakes!"

Tatum: "Oh, I do make mistakes. In every tune I play. But I cover them up."

[hot ford coupe]

Great article and great tips. I'll be willing to bet most listeners couldn't identify a mistake when it happens. Then again, there's a lot of dissonance in jazz so who says a mistake is a mistake. Just keep on going and make it look like you meant to do that.

[Tom Karol]

"If you play one wrong note, it's a mistake; if you play two wrong notes in a row, it's Jazz!" - ?

[edh]

That's funny Tom.

[docbop]

I remember some old Howard Robert's comments....

Any note works if you play it fast enough.

You're never more than a half-step from the right note.

Hit a bad note, play it again so they think you wanted to play it.

Then Miles said it best....

There are no wrong notes, just opportunities.

[zigzag]

"I've been imitated so well, I've heard people copy my mistakes." -Hendrix

[fep]

Written and given to me by Bill Thrasher:

[fep]

Nose continued:

[meowmeow]

everyone makes mistakes , once me and my father were listening to jazz music and he was going over php last night , and he passed out and he happned to me mumbling the words attached , its the jazz music that brings out the worst in all of us.

[ohlcv]

+

There are no mistakes on the bandstand

[Atticus]

Any note works if you play it fast enough.

Isn't that the guiding principle for sax players? Just wiggle your fingers on the keys fast enough, and nobody will be able to hear anything distinct enough to correct...

[monk]

Frank,
Many thanks for all the Thrasherisms you've shared with us. This one goes to the top of my list of best posts on this forum.
Regards,
monk

[tstrahle]

"If you play one wrong note, it's a mistake; if you play two wrong notes in a row, it's Jazz!" - ?

I've always said, "if you hit a wrong note, hit it again, they'll think you did it on purpose."

[cosmic gumbo]

Jazz without mistakes is boring. It means nobody is pushing their limits. Boring. Did I mention boring?

[holgit]

Written and given to me by Bill Thrasher:

Thanks for this! What a wise guy!

[holgit]

Thanks for this! What a wise guy!

I am very sorry. English is not my first language. I wanted to say, that these are very wise words. I did not know the real meaning of wise guy.

Once again: sorry!
holgit

[chrisnewlin]

One of my favorite recorded mistakes is by Kurt Rosenwinkel on his tune, "Minor Blues." He's just partway into his solo, playing a "Kurt" line, and he slips and bops a string ..... he pauses, and then he hits it a few more times before taking off on another run! It's hilarious, and also refreshing to hear such a player make -- and keep -- a mistake.

I know exactly what you're talking about. I heard that mistake over and over, and now it almost doesn't sound like one anymore. Minor Blues is in Ebm, and he hits the open D by accident, hits it a couple more times after the initial accident, then does a minor-major 7 arpeggio on Eb all the way up to a high D...all of a sudden, it sounds hip and not wrong.

With mistakes, you just gotta let them go and keep your focus on where the line is going. If you take the time to correct them in the shed after the gig, eventually they will fix themselves over time.

[Ob Com]

buddy rich once said that if he made a mistake he would repeat it so people would think it was deliberate

[pingu]

With mistakes, you just gotta let them go and keep your focus on where the line is going. If you take the time to correct them in the shed after the gig, eventually they will fix themselves over time.

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Right on ........
sometimes there's value in keeping the line moving right along with the changes and just ignore the damn clam (s) .........

there are ways to turn the 'mistake' into something positive retrospectively
repetition , some more out sh1t , whole tone stuff etc
but A) you interupt the flow
b) who are you really fooling anyway ?

not yourself for one

PS
I think its true that the faster you play the more you can
'get away with ' stuff

(damn I wish I could play fast)