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Old 12-20-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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Here's the thing, if we were to make new pop songs into jazz tunes, we'd have 20million songs with the same chord progression.
How many jazz tunes are made of ii-V's? How many blues tunes are made of the same form? We already play 20 million songs with the same progression hahaha.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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Why does all of modern jazz have to change every time someone discovers that they are actually a fan of jazz influenced music as opposed to straight ahead jazz music?

I'd much rather hear Potter, Muthspiel, Rogers, Kreisberg, Helkselman, etc continue on the paths that they are on than suddenly hear them start putting out Britney Spears covers. I'm sure they would do a fine job of it but I don't need them to try and trick me into liking jazz music as I'm already a fan. I don't hear constant dissonance in their music at all and when they take me outside, I love every minute of it.

Discovering that straight ahead jazz is not your thing is great. Take the parts of jazz that you enjoy and sprinkle it into pop or hip hop or electronica or whatever floats your boat and go to town. It's hardly a new concept as people have been doing it (some quite successfully) for years.

How about we let modern jazzers keep doing what they are doing and let the pop guys assimilate whatever they'd like? One isn't better than the other but they are different and as a music fan who enjoys variety, that's just fine with me.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:16 PM
 
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This is an example of the things I'm working on. Just need another guitarist with my style to accompany me. This isn't 'jazz', but it is an instrumental version of a well known song, with more interesting harmony and some improv running off the melody, things I couldn't do until I started learning jazz. You're going to have to know the original to get it, but seeing as most people my age do it works. Listen to the original first, Count On Me by Bruno Mars.
I enjoyed where you were going with that. You're playing is much more mature than where I was at at your age. Keep up the good work!
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:41 PM
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How many jazz tunes are made of ii-V's? How many blues tunes are made of the same form? We already play 20 million songs with the same progression hahaha.
It's still not the same repeating four chord structure. I know what you mean. You can do countless things with a blues though, and alter the chords and reharmonize them in many different ways. Not like you couldn't do it with those 4 chords but it's eventually tiring. And they kind of did this with blues/rock n roll. Most 50's rock n roll is in blues form. Most of these songs became popular songs at the time, and went vice versa back in to jazz.

Rhythm Changes is another common chord progression. And true, it's built with many ii-V's, but they are ii-V's that move in and out of keys. Have more harmonic weight, if you want to call it that. Many of the chords are alterable and you can do much more things with these changes.
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