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Old 05-17-2010, 12:26 PM
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What is a + Chord? And how would you voice it?
like B+7.

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Old 05-17-2010, 12:30 PM
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That's another notation for B7#5. Raise the fifth of a B7. Does that make sense? Can you do it, now?
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:32 PM
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:33 PM
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Ted Greene has the hippest way of voicing these chords, something I picked up off of an audio of one of his lessons. It really sounds cool, almost like film music.

Play the aug triad (B, D#, G) in any inversion, and choose as a bass note any note in the B whole tone scale that isn't B (A, C#, D#, etc). It sounds REALLY cool when you move them over the aug triad in some rhythmic sequence.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:43 PM
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Could you clarify that? Are you saying:

1, Take a triad (say B D# G) and play a sequence of "the other" whole tone scale notes in the bass, say F then A then C#?

1xx443
x0x443
x4x443

or

2. Take a triad (say B D# G) and chose another note from the WT scale, say A: 5xx443, then slide it up or down in whole steps

5xx443
7xx665
9xx887
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:58 PM
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BDLH,

Ted used the 'parent' whole tone (B, C#, D#, F, G, A). You could use any of the notes as bass notes, or all of them in a sequence (or as many as you can reach holding the aug triad.

I'll try the tab thing...

x10988x
x8988x
x6988x
9x988x

I don't have an axe here, but I hope that is correct and makes sense. You could use any inversion of the triad as well.
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Old 05-17-2010, 02:32 PM
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Cool! One more thing to try when I get home.
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Sorry if this sounds a bit thick but does this mean that B+7 is the same as B7 sus. ?
no. B+7 is B7#5...either way has a major 3rd (D#). B7sus would not usually have a major 3rd, it being replaced with the fourth (E)--the 'suspended' note.
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Thanks, I have just checked a chord chart (notes not tab) and can see they are not the same. I am not very good with my chord construction theory I am afraid My question actually comes from trying to enter the chord into BIAB. For B7#5 - do you know how you would enter that on BIAB?

Also Eo chord??

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Found out how to do the first one

Is Eo same as Edim?
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Found out how to do the first one

Is Eo same as Edim?

Yep-and I've found that most times when you see Eo or EDim they mean Edim7 or Eo7-not the diminished triad.
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Thanks, I have just checked a chord chart (notes not tab) and can see they are not the same. I am not very good with my chord construction theory I am afraid My question actually comes from trying to enter the chord into BIAB. For B7#5 - do you know how you would enter that on BIAB?

Also Eo chord??

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for B7#5 in BIAB, " b 7 3 5 enter "

for Edim " e d enter "
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