Manana De Carnaval

Johnny valentine · #1 02-25-2010, 12:36 PM

Can anyone help me with the chords to Manana De Carnaval, please you tube John,Al and Paco doing this tune, as well as Luis Miguel, he has a great comping guitarist. Also check out Sungha Jung doing his finger style version. I would be happy just getting grip chords together on this.

Thanks to all,

Johhny

juuso1 · #2 02-25-2010, 02:38 PM

Hi,
Try something like this, they are basics, but you can sure do more and better...

Am[:/Am////Dm6/E7//Am////Dm6/E7//Am////
Dm7/G7//Cmaj7////Gm6/A7//Dm7////G7////
Cmaj7////Fmaj7////Dm6////E7////Am////
Dm6/E7// Am////Dm6/E7//Am////Dm6/E7//
Gm6////A7-9////Dm////Dm////Dm6////
E7////Am////Dm6////E7////E7////Am/Dm//Am////
Dm/Am//Dm/Am//Dm/Em//Am////Am///:]
Cheers juuso1
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JimBobWay · #3 02-25-2010, 04:25 PM

There is a section on this site with misc. links and one of them is to a McLaughlin tribute site, which has a full score of the guitar trio's version of Manha, with tab: WBTG-Scores-Manha De Carnaval. It's very accurate but the scan is a little rough. Hope this helps...

Johnny valentine · #4 02-25-2010, 08:30 PM

Thanks Juuso1, JimBobway, you are the best.
I appreciate it. SO here is another question. Who decides what chords to use? How are chords determined if a singer is not a piano player or guitar player. I kind of know a little about diatonic chords, and a little about their inversions.
But the chart on the link for the Manha De Carnival piece I cannot relate too. I was able to learn an earl klugh finger style arrangement by the recording and the tab just like the chart. However I do not know what chords I am doing.

Johnny

JohnW400 · #5 02-25-2010, 10:31 PM

look here...it's calle dblack orpheous

WBTG

Johnny valentine · #6 02-25-2010, 11:26 PM

Johnw400,

Thanks Man, your're too much..

I have been a long time avid listener and devotee to JM, I studied under Strunz with Srunz and Farah years ago, I have been using a digital transcriber to capture his heads and runs. I only understand basic grip chord harmony. It sucks because I get way tired of just playing runs all the tim. I wish I could read the chord charts on the link you gave me. I would be in heaven.

I mean so what if I can burn rubber through chic's spain, If I cannot read the chart and follow the changes then I am sucking all over the place.

Any suggestions on tackling those charts, simple one first please.

randalljazz · #7 02-26-2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnW400

look here...it's calle dblack orpheous

WBTG

well, it is called that, but that is not the name of the song.

the name of the song is 'manha de carnaval' ('morning of the carnival').

black orpheus is the name of the movie it was written for...

JohnW400 · #8 02-26-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by randalljazz

well, it is called that, but that is not the name of the song.

the name of the song is 'manha de carnaval' ('morning of the carnival').

black orpheus is the name of the movie it was written for...

Yes, but unfortunately it's not listed that way on the site or in the real book. I don't think he would have found it otherwise.

It appears that the Real Book ain't givin any love to the Brasilians. Either they list the wrong name or the wrong changes.

Johnny valentine · #9 02-26-2010, 12:34 PM

I luv you guys

Johnny valentine · #10 02-26-2010, 12:55 PM

randalljazz is that you when I opened the link to all the scores? damm that's very nice, i'm hungry for more... it has so many combined elements pleasing and teasing to the mind, I do not know what to do next..

randalljazz · #11 02-26-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnW400

Yes, but unfortunately it's not listed that way on the site or in the real book. I don't think he would have found it otherwise.

It appears that the Real Book ain't givin any love to the Brasilians. Either they list the wrong name or the wrong changes.

not suggesting we swim against the tide...but we guitar players of all the jazz world might try to pay proper respect...

randalljazz · #12 02-26-2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny valentine

randalljazz is that you when I opened the link to all the scores? damm that's very nice, i'm hungry for more... it has so many combined elements pleasing and teasing to the mind, I do not know what to do next..

no, not me playing...i'm just another bossa nova/samba aficionado...

Johnny valentine · #13 02-26-2010, 06:44 PM

Anbody out there plays Di meola, or Strunz stuff or similar that lives in LA?

JohnW400 · #14 02-26-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by randalljazz

not suggesting we swim against the tide...but we guitar players of all the jazz world might try to pay proper respect...

I have a story for you Randall.

About 10 years ago I was playing in a Spanish restaurant. The owner was Brazilian and occasionally some of his 'paisanos' would come by for dinner.

One night they came up and put a $20 in the jar and asked that we play Girl from Impanema. That was a nice tip so we playerd EVERY Jobim tune from the real book that we knew. They only knew Girl from Imp. They had no idea about the other 6 Jobim tunes we played. We got a kick out that.

I used to eat at this Brazilian restaurant in Harrison, NJ. They had a dish called Fejoada completa. Man , Excellent. I'm getting hungry thinking about it.

randalljazz · #15 02-27-2010, 05:53 AM

thanks, john. i, too, have met brazilians who are not well-versed in their own rich musical heritage. i guess it's not much different from the usa, where few among the younger set (general population--hopefully NOT jazzers) have ever heard of horace silver or clifford brown...