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Old 12-04-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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Default chords that morph from a note change.

chords such as:


CM7add9 | EM7
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become:


Em7 | C#m7
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is there a good resource for more on these chords, and the underlying structure behind them. i know there's a bit on doing this with diminished chords, but i've not seen anything using normal major and minors.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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Another way (each number refers to a chord tone 1357 etc)

1 moves to 2 you get a 9
3-4 gives you 11
5-6 gives you a 13th

Since you change rather than add notes you should start to see certain chords that will look like others such as Cma9 and Emi7, C9 and Emi7b5

It get's interesting when you take say, a C dim7 and move 3 to 4 . You get chords like B/C and Ab7#9.


Another thing to do is keep one note and move the rest of the notes up or down.

Example C B E G (8x998x) Keep the C and move the other three notes down a 1/2. You get Cmi7b5. Another 1/2 Dmi7/C

one of my favorite things to do is keep the top note and move the bottom up on triads or 4ths through the scale
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:20 PM
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Earlier, I asked for help on a chord progression (must find that thread, the suggestions were great).

Anyhowdy, the chords go:

EMaj7 | DMaj7| EMaj7 | DMaj7|
C#min7 C7 | Bmin7 E7b5 | Amaj7 | Amin7 D7 | ....

The second line sounds great when you combine a descending bass line with a constant top note:

C#min7 : x4645x
C7: x3535x
Bmin11: x2425x
E7b5 : 6x675x
AMaj7: 5x665x
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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Try it like this




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Keep the 1 and move 342 down in 1/2 steps. Basically the same chords
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:07 PM
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You know, even though I have a bigger thumb/pinky span than you (27cm) I still can you those stretches!
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:13 PM
 
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Not sure on books that cover this specifically. Surely some exist. Why pay for it when you can work it out yourself though? Far more rewarding!

I love exploring voicing's. Probably too much because I spend more time finding nice voicing's for accompaniment than I do working on soloing.

Super close voicing's.
I VI II V

xx778x - Bb6
xx988x - G7#5
xx888x - Cm7
xx788x - F7

xx8766 - Bbmaj7
xx9766 - G7#9
xx10 888 - Cm7
xx7879 - F7b9#5

x877xx - Bbmaj7
x567xx - Bb7/D
x657xx - Ebmaj7
xx857x - Ebm6

xx056x - Dm7
xxx463 - G7 > xx3446 - Db13
xx5546 - Cm7
xx7544 - F7#9
xx876x - Bbmaj

Gotta love rhythm changes. do be do bada ba dumbe do wa do bada bop!

ps. yes.. they are mostly rootless and I have not bothered to write them as slash chords or anything else. No need.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles View Post
Earlier, I asked for help on a chord progression (must find that thread, the suggestions were great).

Anyhowdy, the chords go:

EMaj7 | DMaj7| EMaj7 | DMaj7|
C#min7 C7 | Bmin7 E7b5 | Amaj7 | Amin7 D7 | ....

The second line sounds great when you combine a descending bass line with a constant top note:

C#min7 : x4645x
C7: x3535x
Bmin11: x2425x
E7b5 : 6x675x
AMaj7: 5x665x
...
hey thanks for that min11 voicing, although i think it sounds better if u put the f# on the high e string
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:55 PM
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hey thanks for that min11 voicing, although i think it sounds better if u put the f# on the high e string
True, but that breaks the string of 'e's at the top of the chords.
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Not to be a noodge, but isn't this called "voice leading"? And if so, aren't there a ton of books on the topic?

Amazon.com: voice leading for guitar: Books

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Quote:
chords that morph from a note change.
Doesn't every chord voicing morph from a note change? (Just sayin' ...)
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Hey what about MorphMaster Johann?
Bach Chorales.
Am I allowed to say that in a guitar forum?
David
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