Desafinado Chords

m78w · #1 10-11-2008, 11:41 AM

Here's the chord voicing etude Black Cat asked for.

MW

hot ford coupe · #2 10-11-2008, 01:52 PM

I downloaded it too. Thanks.

Black cat · #3 10-12-2008, 02:31 AM

Matt,
Thanks for the chords to Desafinado. Very tasty arrangement.

Black cat

ScotGormley · #4 01-03-2010, 06:15 AM

Thank you for Desafinado

pierre richard · #5 01-04-2010, 03:55 PM

great tune to add to your repertoire....

Wave is another as is How Insensitive..

Jobim wrote many many great tunes..

Time on the instrument..pierre

JohnW400 · #6 01-04-2010, 03:59 PM

RandallJazz Also did this tune and posted it . I know they're posted on AAJ. I think they may also be posted here somwhere. If not perhaps he would.

Hey Randall, where are they?

gersdal · #7 01-04-2010, 04:47 PM

I notated randalls voicings to analyze and compare them with the real book changes. I also tried to incorporate the comments that jazz oud at aaj gave to the changes, and made a version with those as well. Hope that is helpfull.

JohnW400 · #8 01-04-2010, 05:05 PM

Thanks.

I went back and read the comments. Very valid point about which changes to play when out. I think most of us would default to the RB unless someone brought a better chart to pass out.

I see that quite a few members here post at AAJ. It would be nice to see some more of those guys posting here as well (Like Jazz Oud).

randalljazz · #9 01-04-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnW400

RandallJazz Also did this tune and posted it . I know they're posted on AAJ. I think they may also be posted here somwhere. If not perhaps he would.

Hey Randall, where are they?

sorry, john. i know that most of the cats here who are capable are more into chord melody, and the newer and/or younger players don't really have a handle on the concept of rootless voicings...so it should not have given me any pause that no one commented on my work. but, deeply flawed human being that i am (with prima donna tendencies

), after two days i got in a snit and removed them.

Sailor · #10 01-04-2010, 07:14 PM

Why is there a Db in the G7#11??

Sailor

gersdal · #11 01-05-2010, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnW400

I went back and read the comments. Very valid point about which changes to play when out. I think most of us would default to the RB unless someone brought a better chart to pass out.

I had a listen to the original recording of Desafinado and compared it with the RB changes. I would say if I ended in a situation with e.g. a singer that is singing off the record it would be a disaster at places if I was playing off the RB. I belive the version with Jazz Ouds corrections are close to correct (I do still have one uncertainty, as I'm sure you can see).

gersdal · #12 01-05-2010, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor

Why is there a Db in the G7#11??
Sailor

Would you prefer a C#? I guess I'm looking at it primarily as a b5 and notate it as a Db, rather than C#. My education is in the wrong area to know what is the correct. Please enlighten me.

gersdal · #13 01-05-2010, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor

Why is there a Db in the G7#11??
Sailor

I couldn't find any G7#11 in my pdf's, so I guess the question was not for me. Sorry.

randalljazz · #14 01-05-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor

Why is there a Db in the G7#11??

Sailor

looks neater to write notes a third apart than a second apart...easier to read. no practical difference in most circumstances, especially for guitarists (doesn't hurt to understand the theoretical difference).

JohnW400 · #15 01-05-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by randalljazz

sorry, john. i know that most of the cats here who are capable are more into chord melody, and the newer and/or younger players don't really have a handle on the concept of rootless voicings...so it should not have given me any pause that no one commented on my work. but, deeply flawed human being that i am (with prima donna tendencies

), after two days i got in a snit and removed them.

At one point I must have had 30 CM's posted and hardly anyone commented. There were even some posters that requested a particular tune , and I obliged them, and narry even a thanks. I even offered to clarify if someone had questions about cord choices , subs , whatever. Not one question. EVER.

Even after taking them down and e-mailing them to whoever asks for one already done, some have not even replied with a thanks. (Most have replied though.)

And this has further reinforced the old saying "anything you give away for free loses it's value."

People just don't aprrreciate it after a while. Look how many people on this site (as well as AAJ) that scoff at he idea of paying for an instruction book. They feel that they are entitled to download it for free. Some (on AAJ) actually thought intelectual property should be free to all. Some eveb to the point where they believe that copyrights and patents should be done away with.

So my friend. Don't expect any sort of pat on the back. I don't think it happens that often.

It comes down to after reading most of the posts here I have a good idea of who the players are. And I think of these people as the ones that help this art move on. Regardless of thanks

Sailor · #16 01-05-2010, 05:45 PM

IF I forgot to say thanks for everything...THANKS, and I mean it. I've read everything John and Matt posted. Lots of it is a little difficult for me at times but I do play some of their CM's and LOVE them.

I'm also assuming that Matts Desafinado chords are correct as well as my Real Book???

gersdal · #17 01-05-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnW400

At one point I must have had 30 CM's posted and hardly anyone commented. There were even some posters that requested a particular tune , and I obliged them, and narry even a thanks. I even offered to clarify if someone had questions about cord choices , subs , whatever. Not one question. EVER.

Even after taking them down and e-mailing them to whoever asks for one already done, some have not even replied with a thanks. (Most have replied though.)

And this has further reinforced the old saying "anything you give away for free loses it's value."

People just don't aprrreciate it after a while. Look how many people on this site (as well as AAJ) that scoff at he idea of paying for an instruction book. They feel that they are entitled to download it for free. Some (on AAJ) actually thought intelectual property should be free to all. Some eveb to the point where they believe that copyrights and patents should be done away with.

So my friend. Don't expect any sort of pat on the back. I don't think it happens that often.

I've found a lot of very valuable things from you all, and I understand that I should have thanked the contributors more often. Sorry, and a belated thanks. It just that if I don't have anything to contribute, I'd rather shut my mouth. I hope the saying "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery" still counts

gersdal · #18 01-05-2010, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor

I'm also assuming that Matts Desafinado chords are correct as well as my Real Book???

There is obviously two versions, the standard one (Matts version, randalljazz version, real book version) and a (original?) bossa nova version (jazz Oud changes). My understanding is that you in 99.9% would be ok with the real book version.

ohlcv · #19 01-07-2010, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gersdal

I've found a lot of very valuable things from you all, and I understand that I should have thanked the contributors more often. Sorry, and a belated thanks. It just that if I don't have anything to contribute, I'd rather shut my mouth. I hope the saying "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery" still counts

I'd like to echo Gersdal's comment. I have never requested CM arrangement, but I have downloaded many and benefited greatly. I may not always have said thanks at the time - I should have - but I will do so in the future.

Apologies, and thanks to everyone who has posted arrangements on this site.

mhch · #20 01-12-2010, 01:38 PM

My first post in this forum. Well I'm more a Brazilian guitar player than a jazz player, but I'm reading here from time to time.

Anyway, here is a link to a blog article in which you can access a score of Desafinado transcribed from a video (also accessible from that article) by Yoshiro Nakamura singing and playing the guitar). I never found a score which really satisfied me (Real Book in particular) and I liked Yoshiro's performance so much that I decided to perform the transcription work (using transcribe and sibelius software tools). For those of you who never heard of transcribe, this is really a great tool for musicians (relatively cheap, about $50 or so)

This link (//http://bossanovabrasil.fr/jouer-desafinado-comme-yoshiro-ou-presque-19148.html) points you to a page which is in French (I'm French although bilingual). But look for the word "télécharger" or "nakamura" appearing in a different color from the rest of the text.

Enjoy.