What is the name of this Chord?

[djangoles]

Just the first chord....I guess right now I would think Emin7b5 add 9 (no third)...but that's a tad bit clunky for me. Maybe Bbaug/E????

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E Bb D F#------->Eb A C# G----->F A C E

[hed_b94]

Originally Posted by djangoles

Just the first chord....I guess right now I would think Emin7b5 add 9 (no third)...but that's a tad bit clunky for me. Maybe Bbaug/E????

From bottom to top

E Bb D F#------->Eb A C# G----->F A C E

I think that if we have only 4 notes we can't go to no 3rd or no 7th chords.
So, I'd say it's an F#7b13 with the seventh in the bass.

[JohnW400]

I see this as a minor ii-V-i

E Bb D F# = Emi9b5 (Yes could be dominant , no 3rd)
Eb A C# G = A7b5/Eb
F A C E = Dmi7 (Rootless voicing)

[djangoles]

Originally Posted by JohnW400

I see this as a minor ii-V-i

E Bb D F# = Emi9b5 (Yes could be dominant , no 3rd)
Eb A C# G = A7b5/Eb
F A C E = Dmi7 (Rootless voicing)

That's pretty much how I've been treating it too, basically a ii-V-i....thanks

[max chill]

Wouldn't a key signature shed light on function? Why are we mixing sharps and flats?

[JohnW400]

Originally Posted by max chill

Wouldn't a key signature shed light on function? Why are we mixing sharps and flats?

The key for this ii V i is D minor so the key doesn't help you since the ii mi9b5 has F# and the A7b5 contains Eb. Neither are in D minor nor the HM or MM versions.

The best way to determine what chord you have is to look for 3rds. in E Bb D F# you could stack them up and get Bb+/E but eh next chord seals the deal because Eb A C# G can be inverted to stack A C# Eb G to be A7b5/G.

Still not 100% as it could also be Eb7b5 so.... F A C E is stacked 3rds already.

Looking at the simplest solution we could surmise ii9b5 - V7b5 - i mi9.


FYI, most times it is easier to read and follow the chord tones if we mix accidentals. Especially for reading. One gets accustomed to seeing how chords look on paper.

[tele jazz]

C7 (9b5)

[bako]

The progression could also be interpreted

E Bb D F#-----C9#11
Eb A C# G-----F9+
then F A C E could be Bbma9#11 (5 7 9 #11)

The 1st 2 chords are both from the whole tone scale and highly ambiguous.
The question then becomes is what interpretation the ear will accept as a resolution to the notes F A C E.

John's example is the clearest and simplest solution.
Out of context that is the way I would also hear it.

[djangoles]

....in context the Emin7b5 to A7/Eb to Dmin(Fmaj7) is the how it works in the tune....the 3 chords are @ :21. The Eb in the second chord may not be in there, it's hard to tell on my crappy laptop speakers. Also it sounds like he might be out of tune a wee bit.

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[MortenFaerestrand]

Whatever one might call it, nice voice leading Especially the last chord, easy to forget that one as an option, at least I don't use it often.