"The Days Of Wine & Roses" chord intro:

Dark Star · #1 09-05-2010, 08:30 PM

These are the intro chords to The Days Of Wine & Roses I lifted off of Vince Guaraldi's version of the song w/Vince & Guitarist Bola Sete that is found on The Definitive Vince Guaraldi:

10|13|12|10|13|XX

08|08|08|08|09|08

06|06|06|06|06|08

08|XX|08|07|06|06

08|XX|08|06|05|05

Does anyone know what to call them? What their proper names are? The song is in the key of F
thx-
*edited to reflect correct chord fingerings*

whippersnapper · #2 09-06-2010, 10:10 AM

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whippersnapper · #3 09-06-2010, 10:12 AM

10|14|12|10|14|XX -- one heck of a strech... could be a number of things but havn't come across this voicing

08|08|08|08|09|08 -- F-7

06|06|06|06|06|08 -- B-9

08|XX|08|07|06|06 -- C/Bb

08|XX|08|06|05|05 -- Ab9

Dad3353 · #4 09-06-2010, 10:28 AM

Good afternoon, Dark Star...

May I recommend the following...

Guitar Pro 6 - Tablature software for guitar, bass, and other fretted instruments

...which, amongst too many other features to list here, enables one to place the notes on the on-screen guitar fingerboard, and the chord name(s) will be displayed.

Not very expensive, and worth every penny/cent/euro (yen/koppeck/whatever...).

Hope this helps...

mr. beaumont · #5 09-06-2010, 12:28 PM

The most important thing is that last chord--which is a C13b9, if I've ever heard one, taking you to the I.

If I were to analyze the whole thing, you've got a Dm/maj sound, A trip to Fm7 and Bb minor9 (with 11ths) finishing up with a C9sus to the C13b9.

I don't have that recording, so I'm taking your word for it, but I don't like that first chord in context with the others.

Dad3353 · #6 09-06-2010, 01:23 PM

Just as an illustration, here are some (partial...) screenshots of the propositions from Guitar Pro...

...Note that several chord names are given; which applies depends on where the root is considered to lie. Feel free to debate the pertinence/utility...

Meanwhile...

mr. beaumont · #7 09-06-2010, 01:32 PM

Does guitar pro offer gig insurance if I write one of their chords on a chart and the other musicians proceed to beat the crap out of me?

Dad3353 · #8 09-06-2010, 01:40 PM

No, the Jazz Police are paid by Guitar Pro to do that for them (and they have their work cut out...).
Seriously, it's not the main function of Guitar Pro, just a handy facility. I use GP much more than BIAB, for instance, to see how something sounds. Imports Midi files, etc. Slow down the tempo to any rate (keeping the pitch, of course...).
I was just trying to suggest a way for Dark Star to get a handle on chord analysis. Can equally well be done manually; but I find it's more fastidious (although it's good to know how to do it, of course...)
Horses for courses?

Dark Star · #9 09-06-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

I don't have that recording, so I'm taking your word for it, but I don't like that first chord in context with the others.

That's because I messed up the notation for the first chord! It should be:
10|13|12|10|13|XX
That makes ALL the difference. Sorry-

mr. beaumont · #10 09-06-2010, 04:32 PM

AHA!!! I knew something was up! There's nothing wrong with that first chord as you first put it, mind you, although it's a wild one...but it didn't fit with this particular sequence.

The new one, i guess I'd look at as a Bbadd9/D...

And dad3356, I was mosty just kidding about guitarpro--however, if I was writing a chart, if I want the exact voicing I simply write it in the staff, or for a guitar player, write in a chord grid. Otherwise, I give the player directions and let them make the choice, hence my simplified chord names for this intro.

ChuckCorbisiero · #11 09-12-2010, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

The most important thing is that last chord--which is a C13b9, if I've ever heard one, taking you to the I.

If I were to analyze the whole thing, you've got a Dm/maj sound, A trip to Fm7 and Bb minor9 (with 11ths) finishing up with a C9sus to the C13b9.

I don't have that recording, so I'm taking your word for it, but I don't like that first chord in context with the others.

Nice! I like it. Excellent analysis. Maybe with the correction that was added it could be looked at as:
| G-11/D Csus(alt)| Bb-9 Csus9 C13b9| or | ii- Vsus | iv- VsusV7| I think there is a "quartal" harmony thing going on here with all the 11ths but maybe you could look at it as some sort of 2-5 cadence leading into the 1 chord Fmaj.7 to start the tune. I Wonder what modal opportunities there are in terms of a solo? I did add and omit tones in my analysis but I was trying get an inferred approach to the harmony rather than a literal one. For some reason 2-5-1 or 5-1 always helps me get grounded. I know it's a stretch of the imagination but on the fly, I think this is what Pat Martino and others do.