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Old 11-28-2008, 07:29 PM
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Help Segovia Scales

What exactly are Segovia Scales ? I heard Matt W. Talking about adam rogers who practiced a lot thoses scales and make his students check a lot of that stuff.

Is it a manner of practicing scales ? i saw that book last time (segovia - scales for classic guitar) is it what its all about ?

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Yep, the term "segovia scales" is used to describe the fingerings he used for his book. The book goes for under 10$ and is well worth the bread.

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Old 11-28-2008, 07:49 PM
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Yep, the term "segovia scales" is used to describe the fingerings he used for his book. The book goes for under 10$ and is well worth the bread.

MW
Ok cool, does practicing those is really good time investment ?
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That depends. As far as scales go I like the fingerings because they shift across the neck up 2 to 3 octaves. So you will get out of playing "position" scales as they force you to shift in places you probably haven't thought of.

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Old 11-28-2008, 07:56 PM
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That depends. As far as scales go I like the fingerings because they shift across the neck up 2 to 3 octaves. So you will get out of playing "position" scales as they force you to shift in places you probably haven't thought of.

MW
ok thanks, definitly gonna give it a try.
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Here are some scales that I posted. I like these since they present alternate ways to play the notes.

The arpeggio study goes with it
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:00 PM
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Thanks John, But those you posted looks like the "basics" positions i have learned when i was younger. The segovia scales kind of mix all of those in one.

But thanks for your help !
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Old 11-29-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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I found this but whats up with the c#?

http://chordmelody.org/pdf/Segovia%2...-Amin_0001.pdf
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the tab is wrong, it's a B major scale for the first octave, then it looks like it comes back into C.

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Scratch that, the tab is wrong for both the major and the minor scales in this example.

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Old 11-30-2008, 12:51 PM
 
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hm
what's the matter about "Segovia scales"?
Sorry, I don't understand.
You want to play like "Segovia"?
major an minor scales?
Do you want to play Tuba or anything else?
Sorry, I don't understand your question.
But I am tyrolean, but I love flamenco.
Can you help me play Bossa Nova, without asking for scales?
I have a lot of guitars, and nobody helps me to destroy them...

all the best

Hubert
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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hm,

U're talking about "fingering"?
Tell me what this is meant for.
Or maybe it's trying to somewhat calling expression
or pardon music? - hm what the hell are you asking for?

peg thousand pardons

it's only hubert
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:15 PM
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Its ok, my question has been answered.
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hubert54,your posts make no sense!but they are quite funny!no offence!
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Why is a budgie?

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Old 12-01-2008, 12:28 PM
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It's surreal thing.....


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hey oleo

you just got it! Shouldn't music make fun too?
without - hm - too much paranoid theory?
Someone told me something about a "surreal" thing...
a fact might be, why my "posts" are not intended to make sense,
I instead want to learn something about playing guitar...

and I appreciate anything that comes that way

stay tuned

hubert
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:13 AM
 
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The theory is innocent. The notes are blameless. 'I can't stand people that play F. And when they play it fast, slow, straight, bent, swingy,
too seriously, with joy, with meaning, without meaning, it drives me nuts!!'


Mike

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hm,
can you explain to me ( a dumb tyrolean ), what you mean?
I can't stand the so called "Tyrolean folk music" or whatever
aber der Terminus "Segovia Scales" ging mir einfach auf die Nerven...
too many people seem to talk about music...
maybe it's lack of "non teaching, indoctrinating..

good luck

hubert
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:42 PM
 
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jetzt muß ich Dir nochmals lästig fallen

interessant: it drives me nuts
ich ahne es zwar, aber wirklich verstehe ich es nicht

frei nach Victor Frankl : der Sinn des Lebens ist der "Unsinn"

what kind of instrument u're playing?

best regards or something else

hubert
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:39 AM
 
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Returning to the original post re: Segovia...When I played classical guitar I used a Segovia exercise perhaps for jazz players like this: 1, 2, 3, 4 fingers (lft hnd) top E, 4 frets, then 1, 2 fingers to B and G strings, fret 1 and 2. Play 4 beats alternating 1 and 2 fingers on B and G strings for four beats. Do the same alternating finger pattern (1, 2) with all the strings in any combination of strings. Then alternate with different finger combinations. So you could play using finger 1 and 2 between the B and G string (easy) or 3 and 4 finger between E (top) and A string (hard). I found it helped with shaping chords in particular.
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The Segovia scales become a great daily warmup once they are internalized.
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A student once asked Segovia, "What's so important about scales?"
Segovia's answer; "Scales will solve all your problems."
I've thought about this answer, and I came to the realization that he was probably right. Think about it.
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