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01-15-2010, 06:13 AM
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| | This may be of interest with regard to the Bach theme in this thread:
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01-15-2010, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ohlcv This may be of interest with regard to the Bach theme in this thread: | Not sure how much of that I could absorb, but very cool. Thanks for the post. | 
01-15-2010, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ohlcv This may be of interest with regard to the Bach theme in this thread: | incredible. | 
01-15-2010, 09:32 PM
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| | little wing LOVE how this thread just keeps morphing!!
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01-30-2010, 06:34 AM
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| | Was Hendrix a jazz man? In case anybody is interested I started a thread over on Facebook under the heading 'all of you who love jazz'. 'Was Hendrix a jazz man' which I started has had some fabulous postings and you all might find it very interesting. Check it out. | 
01-30-2010, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny b In case anybody is interested I started a thread over on Facebook under the heading 'all of you who love jazz'. 'Was Hendrix a jazz man' which I started has had some fabulous postings and you all might find it very interesting. Check it out. | A thread on Facebook? | 
01-30-2010, 05:30 PM
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| | Absolutely FatJeff. Many jazz discussions and topics under: 'all of you who love jazz'. | 
02-22-2010, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor Good points Derek!
Jimi was the best at what he did....but I've heard that he only used a few pentatonic riffs and the rest was showmanship, great voice, presence, etc......
I hadn't heard Carl before but he has some mad licks...great player. | for whats its worth, i too found this post to be unfairly demeaning to jimi hendrix. he was certainly more than just pentatonics and showmanship. the other poster had the right to be upset with this post, but his reply was pretty incoherent.
jimi hendrix was an incredible songwriter and incredible blues guitarist all around. not to mention an innovator in recording studio production as well. | 
03-20-2010, 07:15 PM
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| | Listen to Tuck Andress play it along with Castles Made of Sand. Every time I listen I have to shut off the stereo to avoid polluting the sounds in my ears. | 
03-26-2010, 04:44 AM
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| | MIA Vai Little Wing instrumental w open string Harmonic breaks While on the LITTLE WING subject MIA Little Wing instrumental cover with two breaks spaced apart in the song, the breaks being 6 note open-string harmonics, the 12th fret (I assume). The song was on a Passion and Warfare Steve Vai cassette, both in song title and recorded content, purchased from Columbia house music club in the mid 1990s. The cassette was sold assuming an identical CD could be purchased later. 10 years later buying the Steve Vai CD, Passion and Warfare, there is no Little Wing, and the song as officially disappeared, and never existed according to official sources, which where contacted by email repeatedly. Any info on this? "IT SMOKeD!" & I'd like to get an MP3 of it. I have been looking on the internet at old used Steve Vai, Passion & Warfare cassettes and records & none so far have listed Little Wing as a song title on that album. Perplexing, perhaps a royalty or copy rite issue?, I know that Vai has done Little Wing covers in the past with vocals, that can be found on utube and the like, but the Little Wing instrumental with the open-string harmonic breaks, MIA & offically denied? MP3 Stevie Vai Little Wing insturmental w/ 6 note open-string harmonic breaks???
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03-26-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont well, i think the thing about jimi is that everyone talks about his lead playing, but where he's really amazing is in his rhythm playing...of course, inspired by curtis mayfield...
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__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis | 
03-26-2010, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by markerhodes I agree strongly here, Mr. Beaumont. I think what set Jimi (and later Stevie Ray Vaughan) apart from their contemporaries is that they were great *rhythm* players. That rhythmic drive was a large part of what made their *solos* work. | I agree also. His use of the pentatonic scale around his barre chords has been copped by so many guys. It is like Wes' octaves in the rock world. Maybe a bit cliche, but still tasty. | 
07-12-2010, 11:51 AM
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| | In movies the longlasting charismatic icons throughout the years have been James Dean, Marilyn Monroe (Valentino the first one) - the top ones. But there is jealousy of other actors because some of these jealous actors made more movies and better acting skill. In the popular music recording industry Elvis, Beatles, etc. there are other artists that feel they are better musicians and singers than them but who in the end does the public support moneywise? Better actings skill or in music better chops in singing or instrument playing doesn't necessarily mean what the public wants to buy in albums or concert events.
You either got it or you don't....they were born at the right time. But what about now could they make it today?
P.S. I don't believe Jimi Hendrix died of self indulgence. I believe he was murdered by his manager (Mike Jefferey who was stealing his money) who knew Hendrix was going to leave him. A roadie who worked for Hendrix for what the book is worth said Mike Jefferey admitted to him in killing Hendrix. The autopsy shows foul play but there was for some crazy reason no inquest about what the attending emergency physicians reported ... plenty of red wine in his stomach, lungs and in his hair, but not very much wine in his blood.... strange. At the most, he would of lost most of his normal hearing level from his very loud music.
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07-14-2010, 11:01 AM
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| | Music and performers have to be right for their time, even more than the most talented of their time. I personally think Hendrix was exceptionally talented and would make it at any time, but if he were trying to break in now, he would not be the same musician.
PS. Not sure of the point of how or why he died on this thread. | 
07-14-2010, 04:14 PM
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| | It's just that it was mentioned earlier in this thread that like other jazz and rock musicians Hendrix died of self indulgence. A number of people, especially now in some cases, believe Hendrix died of foul play - greed/vengence.. a caveat to future top selling musicians. As Phil Spector has pointed out it's all in the timing...you're right Bluesguy. Sometimes it's best to ignore the off-the-wall comments and stick to the jazz guitar technical Q&A. | 
07-14-2010, 04:43 PM
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| | That's cool. I guess I wasn't reading the subthread.
Note to self--Pay more attention | 
07-15-2010, 08:15 PM
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| | "Hendrix died of self indulgence", only in a very narrow sense. He died of drug addiction. He believed the LIE that drug use would not touch HIM. | 
07-20-2010, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cat "Hendrix died of self indulgence", only in a very narrow sense. He died of drug addiction. He believed the LIE that drug use would not touch HIM. | He enjoyed recreational drugs but was not addicted to hard drugs the autopsy indicated. But according to the attending emergency room physicians think he was drowned forcefully by someone or more than one by red wine and barbiturates to make it look like an overdose.
Elvis and Hendrix were top music artists but they had their demons like Peter Green ... be careful what you want ... you might get it. I've seen Hendrix play live but, of course, I never knew him to say what he was thinking to any degree whatsoever ... just what is in print. A roadie who knew Hendrix and his manager Mike Jefferey confessed he and some guys went to his flat and did away with him. Jefferey died in a plane crash (or did he?). Can you believe the story of the roadie??? I listen to the attending doctors who tried to revive Hendrix but knew he was already a goner....that was 40 years ago he still sells albums...wow!
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07-20-2010, 02:39 PM
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| | So what are recreational drugs vs hard drugs?
How can an autopsy indicate whether a person was addicted to "hard drugs"?
I'm pretty sure you're probably right though. | 
07-20-2010, 03:04 PM
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| | recreational drugs--usually i.e. drugs that are not physically addictive.
Most addicitions start by using addicitive drugs "recreationally."
autopsy's can check amounts of drugs in a person's system...just looking at the amount of something like heroin can give you a pretty good idea of if a person was addicted or not- i.e, amounts that get a full on junkie barely high would kill a first timer.
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07-20-2010, 05:16 PM
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| | Hendrix died from drug use. Normal people do not die of aspirating their own vomit, recreational or not.
Lets just drop this. | 
07-20-2010, 05:33 PM
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| | I agree on dropping it, but Steve, 100's of completely normal people die this way every year...you don't have to be an addict to make a bad decision, pass out on your back, and vomit. | 
07-20-2010, 06:31 PM
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| | I never said you had to be an addict to die this way. Drug (alcohol) use to the point that the autonomic system ceases to function, and you don't roll over or try some other means to clear your air supply, or you are not even aware that you are suffocating is not a normal way to die.
Most people do not consume to the point that it kills them and hence, by definition this action is not normal. If one had not consumed in hyper excessive amounts (enough to kill oneself), one would not die in this manner | 
07-20-2010, 08:45 PM
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| | my last reply on jimi He was murdered by his manager and his goons. They put barbituates in his mouth and a full bottle of red wine. The paramedics came in and nobody was in the Hendrix's room but Jimi he was already dead.
Monika his blonde girl friend said she was there and road in the ambulance with Jimi and said he was awake but she always changed the story. Monika committed suicide in '96.
There never was an investigation/inquest considering in a video interview one of the ER doctors said he was already dead but tried to revive him. How can you have red wine all over your hair, lungs, stomach but very little in your blood stream? Something fishy happened.
Elvis, Hendrix, Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson are worth more dead than alive...it's all business to some unscruplous shrewd business guy.
Why was Hendrix left alone according to the paramedics even now they maintain he was alone and dead when they found him. Where was Monika and was Eric Burdon lying too from his version of the story. End of my reply...over and out  | 
07-20-2010, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesbdean55 He was murdered by his manager and his goons...
....and was Eric Burdon lying too from his version of the story. End of my reply...over and out  | Trolling? | 
07-21-2010, 09:35 AM
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| | You know, ..............I would REALLY like a chord melody of Little Wing, or Drifting, or Angel, or especially Hey Babe. All pretty similar space r&b kind of lick based slow grooves but a side of Jimi I especially like. On yeah, and Pali Gap! | 
07-21-2010, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fep Trolling? | I'd say No.
Trolling means on the Internet being "provacative" or being a "prick" to someone on the Internet
But your comment or question sounds like you are "trolling".
"Pali Gap" and "Hey Baby" (New Rising Sun) are two great tunes. | 
07-21-2010, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cat You know, ..............I would REALLY like a chord melody of Little Wing, or Drifting, or Angel, or especially Hey Babe. All pretty similar space r&b kind of lick based slow grooves but a side of Jimi I especially like. On yeah, and Pali Gap! | Not a chord melody per se, but check this vid out on a great cover of classic Hendrix tunes. If one was properly motivated, I think you could take what Tuck is doing here and create a good solo version. | 
08-11-2010, 01:21 PM
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08-14-2010, 11:34 PM
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| | RAW and off tempo? in spots, but I really like it better than the previous Tuck example and it captures Jimi's vibe better.
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