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12-14-2008, 12:50 AM
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| | Traded Wife for Gibson Byrdland Hi. I'm new to this GREAT site. If I can help anyone with this post, my job on earth is done.
In New York City I started playing at 9 and at 16 did my first paying gig. Did the Cafe Bizzare during the Bob Dillon days. Did the Cafe Wha? during the Richie Havens, Jose Feliciano, Jimi Hendricks (at that time known as Jimmy James and the Blue Flame) Neil Diamond at the Bitter End... So how does this help the young guitarist? Here goes.
I Played in Midtown for money, played in Harlem for me. Shortly after marriage the wife started to get pissed over my late nights, income not steady, other women in bars; you get the picture! Slowly I played less and less. The 9 to 5 became more important than my ES350-T. Then......"Why don't you sell some of these guitars? They're taking up too much space." In time I sold all but the 350T.
Whomever you're with, whomever professes their undying love for you, make damn sure they love and respect your affection for music and your guitar(s) as much, if not more, than you do. Otherwise, you're going to be a 65 year old man living on a ranch in Florida, writing a post and praying some young vertuoso won't lose his way and give up on HIS dream.
BTW: 5 months after the divorce I purchased my Gibson Byrdland WR. | 
12-14-2008, 01:44 AM
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| | Right on! whoever says "i love you" but doesn't share or at least understands and supports your love for music doesn't love you at all.
Welcome to the forums, this is indeed a great place. so far i'm in love with the site, a lot of information, comprehensible, great community.
ps: great introduction post, that's one of the best advices a young musician can get, in my humble opinion. | 
12-14-2008, 09:12 AM
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| | Welcome aboard! I'm lucky to have a wife who's a singer so we get to hang out late in bars together. Definately makes things easier on the homefront!
MW | 
12-14-2008, 12:40 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida
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| | I Learned the Lesson a Little Too Late Yes Gabe2099. This is indeed a great site. Licks that I learned by wearing out LP's are here in notation and tab. I dare say, jazzguitar.be is responsible, and should be credited, for pointing players in the right direction in half the time it took older guys like me.
If I would've read m78w's reply 18 years ago, who knows, I too might've hooked up with a TRUE soulmate. M78W, bless you and yours. | 
12-14-2008, 03:00 PM
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| | I'm happy, no that's not right, I'm not happy, but I know the things you're talking about. I'm in the middle of divorce right now. As I understand it, my dedication to learning jazz guitar, and my unfortunate habit of playing all the time (practicing, so it doesn't even sound good) seems to be the reason why she got tired of having me about the place.
Well, such is life. I couldn't have loved a woman more than I loved her, but unfortunately jazz gives me things she could never understand, or accept. So I'll go on with jazz as the only love of my life (and the daughter of course), and it's ok. Fate plays its games, just accept the cards you're offered.
Peace
Skei (the lone jazzer one) | 
12-14-2008, 04:57 PM
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| | Skei, sorry to hear your news man, but trust in things happening for a reason, even though you can't see it at the time. Be true to what you are and hold to that, it will see you through the bad times. | 
12-14-2008, 09:46 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Shelbyville, Kentucky
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| | I wasn't lucky with my first wife. My second wife loves my music and loves to hear me practice. Wherever I play these days, she goes with me and I play and sing to her. It took me 19 years to find this one and I'm not letting go anytime soon. | 
12-14-2008, 11:25 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida
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| | Hot Ford Coupe, you are one lucky so and so!!! Does she have a sister who's single? Seeing your tag, Hot Ford Coupe, reminds me of the vintage Jaguars "she" talked me into selling.
When my mind goes down memory lane, I pick the most difficult piece and practice until the fingers bleed. My new motto: I'll consume myself into my music today, I'll think of the past tomorrow...
...and, now I've found a new family here; where I may have missed out meeting all you guys if my past were to be my present. | 
12-15-2008, 07:36 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: one guitar pick south of tokyo
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| | hi there and welcome | 
12-15-2008, 08:55 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Shelbyville, Kentucky
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| | Sorry, GBJ, no single sister. SHE MADE YOU SELL THE VINTAGE JAGS!!! That's a felony in some states. I really do feel your pain. My first wife wouldn't even let me get a used 280Z when they were cheap. Now, in this economy and because of my hips and back, I couldn't even think of getting a sports car. Guitars however are a different story. | 
12-16-2008, 07:06 AM
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| | my wife is a bass player and singer (she taught me to how to sing)....so I never had that problem...I've had a few (get this) mid aged students (male) who's wives made them quit lessons because they did'nt want them to become rock stars...HAHA....this is a great site and you will learn much..
time on the instrument........pierre....... | 
12-18-2008, 11:45 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida
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| | Didn't Know Where Else to Post. RE: m78w Since joining Jazzguitar.be I've been reading several forums. I can't help but be impressed with member m78w. He takes his time to explain, in detail, the questions asked by other members. I feel dutybound to acknowledge a member who, not only shares his wealth of knowledge, but does it so unselfishly.
m78w. I, for one, am extremely grateful. | 
12-18-2008, 02:16 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Manchester, UK
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| | I really appreciate the kind words. I love this site because there are so many great players and teachers on here who are willing to share their experiences and talents.
Thanks again
MW | 
01-07-2011, 10:12 PM
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| | Sorry for bumping old thread. I found this while searching for something else. What a gem, ha! | 
01-08-2011, 03:42 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida
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| | JakeAcci, you have warmed my heart. I've been helping some young rockers get into jazz. I'm doing it just for the love of IT... I tell them, "I'm not saying, give-up on shredding or rock, but understanding jazz may give you a melodic and rhythm sense that may put you ahead the shred pack.
Sadly, there's a young man who doesn't come by as much as he used to; his girlfriend calls while he's here asking, "When are you coming home?" "You're still messing around over there?"
JakeAcci, thanks for reminding me of this post. Now, how do I let him see it without seeming like I'm meddling in his personal life? | 
01-08-2011, 03:59 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre richard (some cut..) I've had a few (get this) mid aged students (male) who's wives made them quit lessons because they did'nt want them to become rock stars...HAHA
time on the instrument........pierre....... | One can see how that could be a potential problem, what with the money and fame and all.
I started learning guitar twelve months ago, and already I can play several chords (sometimes nearly note-perfect).
Do you think I need worry?
(ps - I turned sixty last year). 
__________________ It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it  . | 
01-08-2011, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeAcci Sorry for bumping old thread. I found this while searching for something else. What a gem, ha! | Well, I must thank you for that - it's quite a nice read, and gives me hope that I'm not alone (I didn't notice the dates till I saw that it's bump'd). | 
01-08-2011, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by faxixviek | Eh. | 
01-08-2011, 07:50 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidh One can see how that could be a potential problem, what with the money and fame and all.
I started learning guitar twelve months ago, and already I can play several chords (sometimes nearly note-perfect).
Do you think I need worry?
(ps - I turned sixty last year).  | Good afternoon, David...
You're quite right; now is the time to start being worried...
On the other hand, if I understand 'several' to be more than 3, then you're probably already too advanced (especially if, at least sometimes, note-perfect...).
I'm in the same situation, except that I've been messing around with the guitar for over 40 years. Sex'n'drugs'n'Rock'n'Roll..? Drugs? Easy enough... Rock'n'Roll? Sure...but when does the 'sex' come into things? ( perhaps it's me? Is it 'coz I play drums ..?).
Sorry to burst all those pretty illusions, lad. If that's why you started on the guitar, forget it.  Not too late to try fly-fishing, perhaps? Apparently it's good for 'pulling' ladies (although I wouldn't know from experience  ...)?
__________________ Have a nice day
Dad3353 (Douglas...) | 
01-15-2011, 11:41 PM
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| | I've had both. Miss the Byrdland more. ( ha ha ) Is WR for Wine Red? Mine was Wine Red ( the guitar, that is ). | 
01-16-2011, 11:44 AM
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| | I find myself inadvertently returning to this post to look for tips on making the trade! (Wife for Byrdland.)  | 
01-16-2011, 11:08 PM
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| | [quote=mangotango;20273] trust in things happening for a reason[/quote
I have to differ on this one....things don't always happen for a reason. Were that true, then we are impaled on the crux of theodicy: why does God permit evil? Now, I'm not suggesting that God does, or does not, exist. But, if everything happens for a reason, then evil things happen for a reason as well. To take the most recent example, the tragedy in Arizona: did it happen for a reason? Well, yes, it appears the perpetrator is mentally ill. But is there a transcendent reason behind this event? No. Some good people were in the wrong place at the wrong time, through no fault of their own. They were literally caught in the crossfire. Things happen without a grand plan.
We can't choose what happens, and there is no transcendent meaning behind it (yes, I'm an existentialist), but we do get to choose how we react to it. We get to choose our meaning.
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02-15-2011, 01:31 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida
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| | Hey Skei, are ya here and listening? Its been two years since I posted and picked up the guitars and was dropped by the ex and guess what? It took me two years to realize that it was the best thing and greatest gift Ive ever received. Between tending and feeding seven horses, I am stronger and feel better than I have in fifteen years. Initially, I was putting in between four to six hours into studying, listing, and playing. (I now do about one to three hours) I promise you, it DOES get better! I cant promise how long itll take, but you will realize, you wouldnt be where you are if you didnt leave where you were. Music does sooth the savage beast. Do you realize what we have? not only do we listen to music, but we have the gift of creating music; you cant put a price on that!!! Oh, m78w and hot ford coupe dont think that what you said didnt sink in. she sings and plays piano Skei, life is good ! ! ! | 
02-19-2011, 05:16 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Charleston, SC
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| | My wife was supportive for years. Never understood why I liked what I liked but she didn't stand in the way.
Things are changing now and there seems to be an inverse relationship between her "weirdness" and my love of the guitar.
Maybe it will get to the point where I trade her in. Might get so bad that I swap her for a out of tune, three-string ukelele!
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