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Master Jazz Guitar Solos- PG Music? |
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03-16-2011, 02:22 PM
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 I got it with BiaB last December. Volume 3. I haven't put in much time with it, but I've messed around with it enough to see how it works. It contains many solos over standard progressions (-but it does *not* tell you what those progressions are. One would think the titles would give clues, such as when Mimi Fox in her book of arpeggio studies does "Winter Leaves" and "All The Things You Aren't". But no. The solo for "Satin Doll" is called "Monumental Achievement." Who'lda thunk it?) I think there are six choruses to each solo, though I haven't checked them all out. There are chord solos as well as single line solos. And there are several comping arrangements. If you have any specific questions, I'll try to answer them.
__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis     |
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03-16-2011, 05:30 PM
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| Hey, I have this thing, too. I got the Ultra-Pack, which includes way too much stuff - probably 12 gigs or more, after all the drum wave files and such are copied to hard drive. Anyway, although I haven't had it long and haven't really used it yet, it seems to be a good old learn-by-emulation course, which gets my vote every time. The thing I like is that it teaches you solos in the styles of the masters, but does so using eighths and triplets - no super-advanced technique bug-bears to make the whole thing unplayable. In other words, the solos are easy enough for a beginning jazz player, but they still impart the essence of, say, Joe Pass' style. Looks like a good deal to me. I should get busy and learn some of these. I agree, Markerhodes -- not knowing the tune whose progression you're working with is a definite handicap. I have Mimi Fox's book, too, and love how she changed the titles just slightly so you'll know. You can't copyright a chord progression, and since she isn't using the melody, it'd be stupid to increase the price of the book by paying royalties to the many writers or music companies, just for the title. This PG program should have done something similar. I don't know half the tunes I've looked at. Also: "In the style of" -- Joe P., George B., etc. Why not give the whole name? Some of these "masters'" names I don't know! For example, who is Louis S. ? Ed B.? I'll probably smack my forehead and say, "Duh!" when I find out. Ha. Who is Howard A.? Martin T. ? I have a lot to learn.  |
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03-16-2011, 06:01 PM
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By the way, I mentioned this not long ago and someone gave me the name of several of the progressions. (Perhaps in Volume 1--I have 3--the names were given and that lead to controversy, hence the weird names we now find.) Now if I can only find where I put it....
__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-22-2011, 08:02 AM
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| Someone posted a link yesterday to a Yahoo group for BiaB users. I joined and found among the files a list of the progressions to match the solos. I have Volume 3, which starts at 111. Here is the list in full. (I cannot vouch for its accuracy throughout, but all the tunes I've checked so far are right.) If someone could transfer this list to a handy pdf, I'd appreciate it! BIAB File Name Based on Changes to BIAB Graded Level GS001 Manha De Carnaval/Day In The Life Of A Fool Easier GS002 East Of The Sun Easier GS003 I Didn't Know What Time It Was Easier GS004 Rosetta Easier GS005 Pennies From Heaven Easier GS006 Sunny Side Of The Street Easier GS007 Nice Work If You Can Get It Easier GS008 In A Mellow Tone Easier GS009 Man I Love Easier GS010 A Foggy Day variation w/bridge ??? Easier GS011 Lady Be Good Easier GS012 Girl From Ipanema Easier GS013 It Could Happen To You Easier GS014 How High The Moon Easier GS015 You'd Be So Nice Easier GS016 I Love You Easier GS017 Ain't Misbehavin' Easier GS018 Alone Together Easier GS019 Wave Easier GS020 Someday My Prince Will Come Easier GS021 Satin Doll Easier GS022 Sweet Georgia Brown Easier GS023 Bb Blues w/variation Easier GS024 Corcovado Easier GS025 Autumn Leaves Easier GS026 Stella By Starlight Easier GS027 Honeysuckle Rose/Scrapple Easier GS028 Rhythm Changes Easier GS029 Green Dolphin Street Easier GS030 "Take The ""A"" Train" Easier GS031 My Funny Valentine Intermediate GS032 When Your Lover Has Gone Intermediate GS033 It's Only A Paper Moon Intermediate GS034 Our Love Is Here To Stay Intermediate GS035 A Foggy Day Intermediate GS036 This Will Be My Shining Hour GS037 My Romance Intermediate GS038 Have You Met Miss Jones Intermediate GS039 Advanced GS040 Like Someone In Love Advanced GS041 Just Friends Intermediate GS042 Shadow Of Your Smile Advanced GS043 It's You Or No One Advanced GS044 Blue Skies Advanced GS045 I Concentrate On You Advanced GS046 All The Things You Are Advanced GS047 Rhythm Changes Advanced GS048 I Remember You Intermediate GS049 There Will Never Be Another You Intermediate GS050 How About You Intermediate GS051 My Funny Valentine Easy GS052 When Your Lover Has Gone Easy GS053 Confirmation Easy GS054 Once I Loved Easy GS055 I'm In The Mood For Love Easy GS056 Old Devil Moon Easy GS057 Lazy Bird Easy GS058 Georgia Easy GS059 KTOBCTOI also 119 Easy GS060 I Thought About You Easy GS061 Where Or When Easy GS062 It Don't Mean A Thing… Easy GS063 Moonglow Easy GS064 Fly Me To The Moon Easy GS065 Don't Get Around Much Anymore Easy GS066 All Blues Easy GS067 Hello Dolly Easy GS068 Blue Skies Easy GS069 Bluesette Easy GS070 A Night In Tunisia Easy GS071 Darn That Dream Easy GS072 Deed I do???? Easy GS073 All The Things You Are Easy GS074 Perdido Easy GS075 On A Clear Day Easy GS076 Triste Easy Bossa GS077 Love Walked In Easy Swing GS078 Yesterdays Easy GS079 Back Home In Indiana/Donna Lee Easy GS080 Just In Time Easy GS081 That's All Intermediate GS082 Airegin Intermediate GS083 All Of You Intermediate GS084 Am I Blue Intermediate GS085 Blue Moon Intermediate GS086 There Will Never Be Another You Intermediate GS087 There Is No Greater Love Intermediate GS088 Jeannine Intermediate GS089 Jordu Intermediate GS090 Intermediate GS091 If I Should Lose You Intermediate GS092 Speak Low Intermediate GS093 Algo Bueno Intermediate GS094 Blue Bossa Intermediate GS095 Easy Living Intermediate GS096 Bye Bye Blackbird Intermediate GS097 Four Intermediate GS098 Joy Spring Intermediate GS099 Laura Intermediate GS100 Colors of Chloe???? Intermediate GS101 Falling In Love With Love Intermediate GS102 I Should Care Intermediate GS103 In Your Own Sweet Way Intermediate GS104 Alice In Wonderland Intermediate GS105 Just Friends Intermediate GS106 Up A Lazy River Intermediate GS107 Cherokee Intermediate GS108 Dolphin Dance Intermediate GS109 Doxy Intermediate GS110 Do Nothing 'Til You Hear From Me Intermediate GS111 My Funny Valentine Chord Solo GS112 When Your Lover Has Gone Chord Solo GS113 Confirmation Chord Solo GS114 Once I Loved Chord Solo GS115 I'm In The Mood For Love Chord Solo GS116 Old Devil Moon Chord Solo GS117 Lazy Bird Chord Solo GS118 Georgia Chord Solo GS119 Same as 59 Chord Solo GS120 I Thought About You Chord Solo GS121 Where Or When Chord Solo GS122 It Don't Mean A Thing… Chord Solo GS123 Moonglow Chord Solo GS124 Fly Me To The Moon Chord Solo GS125 Don't Get Around Much Anymore Chord Solo GS126 All Blues Chord Solo GS127 Hello Dolly Chord Solo GS128 Blue Skies Chord Solo GS129 Bluesette Chord Solo GS130 A Night In Tunisia Chord Solo GS131 Darn That Dream Chord Solo GS132 Deed I do Chord Solo GS133 All The Things You Are Chord Solo GS134 Perdido Chord Solo GS135 On A Clear Day Chord Solo GS136 Triste Chord Solo GS137 Love Walked In Chord Solo GS138 Yesterdays Chord Solo GS139 Back Home In Indiana/Donna Lee Chord Solo GS140 Just In Time Chord Solo GS141 Satin Doll Advanced GS142 Night And Day Advanced GS143 Lullaby Of Birdland Advanced GS144 Girl From Ipanema Advanced GS145 Advanced GS146 I Hear A Rhapsody Advanced GS147 How Long Has This Been Going On Advanced GS148 Wave Advanced GS149 It Had To Be You Advanced GS150 On The Street Where You Live Advanced GS151 Falling In Love With Love ????? Advanced GS152 Easy To Love Advanced GS153 Deed I Do Advanced GS154 Days Of Wine And Roses Advanced GS155 Come Rain Or Shine Advanced GS156 Bb Blues Advanced GS157 Am I Blue Advanced GS158 I'll Remember April Advanced GS159 All Of Me Advanced GS160 After You're Gone Advanced GS161 Yesterdays Advanced GS162 Autumn Leaves Advanced GS163 Back Home In Indiana/Donna Lee Advanced GS164 Tenderly Advanced GS165 Tangerine Advanced GS166 Summertime Advanced GS167 Stella By Starlight Advanced GS168 The Song Is You Advanced GS169 Just In Time Advanced GS170 On A Clear Day Advanced GS171 I'm In The Mood For Love Comping GS172 My Funny Valentine Comping GS173 When Your Lover Has Gone Comping GS174 Once I Loved Comping GS175 My Funny Valentine Comping GS176 When Your Lover Has Gone Comping GS177 My Funny Valentine Comping GS178 My Funny Valentine Comping
__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-22-2011, 09:52 AM
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| So how can i get these? |
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03-22-2011, 10:23 AM
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__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-22-2011, 11:05 AM
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03-23-2011, 09:59 AM
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| 'For example, who is Louis S. ? Ed B.? I'll probably smack my forehead and say, "Duh!" when I find out. Ha. Who is Howard A.? Martin T. ?' Louis Stewart Ed Bickert Howard Alden Martin Taylor You can check 'em all out on Youtube 
__________________ Spiderman needs no fancy suit or gadgets plus he's a jazz guitar fan |
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03-23-2011, 10:43 AM
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03-23-2011, 05:59 PM
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There are about 250 tunes (I think) in all four volumes (that's what comes with the Ultra Pack), but they don't tell you the names of the damned songs!!! Infuriating, as you might imagine. This long list is the result of someone's hard work and deep knowledge of jazz standards. These are the missing titles! So if you buy the Mastering Jazz Guitar Solos program (or if you get it with Band in a Box), now you'll know (we hope) some of the tunes whose chord progressions the sample solos are played over. Which is good - if you know what the title is, you can go to iTunes and get a vocal version, or one by Miles, or Wes, and soak that baby up. Hope that helps. Kojo |
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03-23-2011, 06:46 PM
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__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-23-2011, 08:18 PM
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| I have been using it for about a year now. I am not much of a musician and it has helped me play stuff I never thought I would be able to. I use it for practice just about every day and thoroughly enjoy the program. I think it is great for timing (far more useful to me than any metronome or similar device). That said, I have often wondered if, given the "kareoke" feel of it, would it be useful to real musicians. (It never occured to me that the song names were used to get around royalty fees. I just assumed it was old public domain stuff and that was why I had never heard of any of it.) Anyway, it's cheap -- give it a try. I would love to hear what more people think of it. |
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03-24-2011, 08:00 AM
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| You can have BIAB create solos in the styles of various famous players over any tune you want. Just use the Soloist function over any tune. Pick your style. You can do this with comping and chord melody too.
__________________ "As for me, all I know is that I know nothing." - Socrates |
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03-24-2011, 08:17 AM
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| Why would they make these great solos and not hint at the name of the songs, thats crazy! |
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03-24-2011, 09:32 AM
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| OK, I'm confused. How can you guys have Volume 3, when they only offer two volumes? Jazz Guitar Master Class I have the "Essential Jazz Guitar" files. Video Guitar Lessons: Essential Jazz Guitar Is anyone familiar enough to describe the differences? |
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03-24-2011, 11:35 AM
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Here's a link: PG Music Inc. - Jazz Guitar Solos There is now a Volume 4. I don't know anything about it.
__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-24-2011, 11:41 AM
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It's free and installs as a virtual printer. Any time you want to create a pdf from any program, "print", and then select PDF995 as your printer. The suite has a thing where you can combine pdfs, convert them to images and stuff like that. The free version has a little ad that you have to click through each time you print. You can purchase the product if you want to remove the ad. Some of us are just too cheap. :-) I use this all the time for school and guitar lessons to "print" pdf from Word, Finale etc. |
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03-24-2011, 12:01 PM
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__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-24-2011, 07:39 PM
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Volume 4 is all stylistic exercises. The music has names like: "Bluesy", "Beebop", "Blues Swing", "Mainstream", "Up Tempo", "Mellow Solo", "Interesting Changes", and so forth. |
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03-25-2011, 05:50 AM
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| Thanks, Markerhodes! I understand now which PG product is which. It turns out I got volumes 1 and 2 of the Master Jazz Guitar Solos as part of my package. I've looked at them, but not worked with them much. Last night I verified that the songs match the titles in the list. Wow, that' handy to have! Like most of us, I have entirely enough first-class learning material. What's I lack is sufficient time to really dig in! I'm a huge BIAB fan, though, and recommend it to anyone who wants to play music --- any kind, at any level. It's an incredible tool. |
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03-25-2011, 06:01 AM
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__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-25-2011, 09:59 PM
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03-26-2011, 05:34 AM
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| All the various chord progression situations you might encounter are in tunes. So if you practice your improvising over actual tunes you will learn this and be able to play tunes. I suggest building a book of tunes vs. practicing chord progression fragments.
__________________ "As for me, all I know is that I know nothing." - Socrates |
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03-26-2011, 06:04 AM
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__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis |
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03-26-2011, 07:01 AM
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My point would be to find these situations in actual tunes. Then break it down from the actual tune. If you learn 30 tunes you will encounter most of these situations. And you will know 30 tunes.
__________________ "As for me, all I know is that I know nothing." - Socrates |
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03-27-2011, 06:26 AM
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03-27-2011, 08:24 AM
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You haven't read all of this thread, it's explained above... Quote:
__________________ Have a nice day Dad3353 (Douglas...) |
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03-27-2011, 10:16 AM
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The moment I send the mail I realised what it really was. By the way, nice drumkit. Thanks  |
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