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Old 02-07-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Hi all, jazz guitarists!
After 3 months I decided to come back. Some of you might remember that last year I was learning difficult jazz concepts with you (very difficult for any guitarist of any other musical style. I still consider that jazz is the most complex of all) but I felt overwhelmed by them, so without proposing myself doing that I stopped writing. I even stopped visiting the forum for 2 months or so but one month ago I started visiting it again, and today I found myself writing here again.
3 months ago I realized that I had too many gaps concerning basic theory, knowledge of the fretboard and also about practise.
I joined another forum where the level ain't so high and there I learned by teaching. Using all the theory I learned here in the past 3 years I was analizing things that other forumers asked that I didn't analize or put into practice before. They were forumers who play rock, blues, pop-rock or whatever.
Aside of that what I've been working on very hard is:
1/ Ear training. I can do mental solfege and can recognize a note that I hear in some 2 or 3 seconds. I've been getting some standard's chords by ear.
2/ Solo over many scales (I even attempted some exotic scale) by just thinking of notes and intervals and getting rid of every scalar shape and every chord diagram (I don't need them anymore). This gives me more freedom when playing horizontally and diagonally.
3/ Internalized the minor harmonic field. Now I relate the diatonic minor scale with the melodic minor and harmonic minor altogether both harmonically and melodically. The 3 of them are now just one.
4/ I understand the chord function in the major and minor harmonic fields.
5/ I know the modal interchange.
6/ I know the most common substitutions including the tritone subs and the secondary dominant chords and where they resolve.
7/ On theory I know every chord and on the fretboard I can construct every chord I need, though I still need more practice to be fluent on the most complicated chords. But I know the "know how".
8/ Practiced a few jazz standards.

You must realize that this has been a lot of work for just 3 months so there are things that still have to be more internalized. As for the standards, since I begun with them recently, I'll be opening new threads giving you my opinion and asking you what I don't understand in a chord progression. I still think "hell!" when I start analizing a jazz standard chord progresion, but I will succeed sooner or later. I hope you'll help me with this.

Glad to come back to you!
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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Welcome back, Claudi! What tunes are you working on?
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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Hi, stackabones!
Thanks for your welcome.
Now I'm working on standards that have been analized in the other forum. Y'know, in the past month or so a few people decided to start analize jazz standards and some of them were Autumn leaves, Scrapple from the apple, and Four. Since these have been or are being analized in that forum I won't ask about them here.
Now I'm learning them on the guitar and after these ones my intention is to work on standards that Skei posted in his 557 standards thread and progressively as I work on them post here my doubts. Before I do it I will make a research in the forum to make sure that that one hasn't been already analized recently here, don't worry about that.
The reason why I still haven't worked on standards was my lack of chord knowledge, but as I pointed before (point n7) now I feel I'm capable with every standard. I'll take one, learn it and ask here.

Again thank you!

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Old 02-07-2011, 10:53 PM
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Howdy! Sounds like you're doing great! I'm new here; I'm a jazz theory nut (not a scholar). If you ever want to ask questions or ramble on about the good stuff, hit me up! Best wishes...
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:18 PM
 
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Hi, Jeremy.
Everything I learned concerning theory comes from this forum. Almost 3 years, so I know exactly what each concept that the guys talk about is about.
Now that I can play any chord I just wanna focus on putting into practice the standards, but about theory I wanna know what's hidding behind every chord in a progression. It's the only thing that I still can't see. I mean, I know what a simple subs is, I know what a secondary dominant is, etc...and when I read the explanation I can see it but not yet by myself. But since I got so far I'm sure I will finally get it.
Doing inversions, strange and several chord positions, etc...will come with the pass of time. That's not my first worry.
Thanks for reading me and posting, mate.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:33 PM
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Hi I'm new too. I'm glad you are getting so much out of your study. I'm glad to hear this forum has benefited you. I've been posting for a few months, but I have been getting tips here for years as well. Let me know if I can help. I've just posted some home videos of gigs and lessons. Check 'em out. Cheers.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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Hi I'm new too. I'm glad you are getting so much out of your study. I'm glad to hear this forum has benefited you. I've been posting for a few months, but I have been getting tips here for years as well. Let me know if I can help. I've just posted some home videos of gigs and lessons. Check 'em out. Cheers.
Hi, Jonny. I already did. Well, I don't know if all but I did see some of 'em. You are planning to make a theory book as well. Your posts are interesting too.
Glad to greet you and good luck with your project.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:55 PM
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Thanks! The books is done... for now. The PDF and left-aligned revised edition will be out by summer. You can see a lot of it on my book thread and on amazon.com. Fun stuff.
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